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Old 09-21-16, 01:37 PM
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That's the Bay area - where every new bike comes with a Strava account!
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Moderate workout on Fiesta this morning:

1x30' at 86% (snore)
1x10' at ~102%
1x5' at 112%
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Old 09-21-16, 05:01 PM
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Rained this morning so I rode the old bike without PM. Just 90' at what felt tempo-ish.
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Originally Posted by Andy STi
That's the Bay area - where every new bike comes with a Strava account!
And there are actually 20k riders to go over a segment.
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
And there are actually 20k riders to go over a segment.
We dont even have that many attempts on some of the segments out here..let alone that many riders!
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It depends, there are a few around here that have many thousands of attempts, but most are in the 1-300 range.

I missed one of my target segments today by 9 seconds on a ~17.5min climb, partly because headwind, partly cuz i went too hard and cracked, and partly because I forgot to push after the last kicker...for some reason the segment continues on for like another 20 seconds on flat road instead of ending where the climb proper does and I soft pedaled it. The same thing happened on another one later in the ride ahhhgrrr! KOM hunting is serious business ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

For real though it's kinda interesting going after the longer climby ones. This particular long climb is weird because it gets pretty level and rolling in the middle so if you go out too hard on the earlier steeper part you really pay for it, and then it kicks up again toward the end and you pay for it even more. Sorta translates better to racing than "do x watts for y minutes"
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Originally Posted by caloso
Rained this morning so I rode the old bike without PM. Just 90' at what felt tempo-ish.
Which PM are you using? My Powertap has a good seal and I ride it in the rain without worries, like this morning.
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
It depends, there are a few around here that have many thousands of attempts, but most are in the 1-300 range.

I missed one of my target segments today by 9 seconds on a ~17.5min climb, partly because headwind, partly cuz i went too hard and cracked, and partly because I forgot to push after the last kicker...for some reason the segment continues on for like another 20 seconds on flat road instead of ending where the climb proper does and I soft pedaled it. The same thing happened on another one later in the ride ahhhgrrr! KOM hunting is serious business ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

For real though it's kinda interesting going after the longer climby ones. This particular long climb is weird because it gets pretty level and rolling in the middle so if you go out too hard on the earlier steeper part you really pay for it, and then it kicks up again toward the end and you pay for it even more. Sorta translates better to racing than "do x watts for y minutes"
link.

I did this one today. 30w more than my last attempt (2012!) but only 2 seconds due to huge winds. Should have been about 20s faster. You can see the moment I turn into the wind for real.

https://www.strava.com/segments/9213...MsMTQxNDY5MzIz
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
link.

I did this one today. 30w more than my last attempt (2012!) but only 2 seconds due to huge winds. Should have been about 20s faster. You can see the moment I turn into the wind for real.

https://www.strava.com/segments/9213...MsMTQxNDY5MzIz
lol you can see where I crack pretty clearly on this and also where I sit up at the end. I'm straight up Ahab about this one, it will be mine. https://www.strava.com/segments/9000...E4NDY1OTc2Mg==
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Old 09-21-16, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
lol you can see where I crack pretty clearly on this and also where I sit up at the end. I'm straight up Ahab about this one, it will be mine. https://www.strava.com/segments/9000...E4NDY1OTc2Mg==
I made that segment! I could just.... delete it...

Also you know Jabba could go a lot harder.
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Old 09-21-16, 07:25 PM
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Ohhhhhhh man I also want the west side of Mohonk AND Glade. I'm *pretty* sure I can do it, at least Mohonk, but the problem is he's so ****ing strong that I really need to be doing super fresh watts. I'm pretty sure that if I pull it off his revenge will be merciless the next time he goes stomping around the Gunks, and hopefully he doesn't take it out on me in a race haha

Actually if he's the weigh I think he is my w/kg today would've been good for Glade.

Thanks for introducing me to Strava btw! This is your fault haha

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You know, re South Gully, as the segment owner I could edit the end of it. Right now it ends at the driveway before the stop sign. If I changed it, 1 and 2 would switch places but you'd still be 3. I think it's OK how it is though.



PS. it's obviously the off season now!

PPS. Jabba=185 lbs

PPPS. Fun fact, 168 of the 2964 attempts on Mohonk are me (5.7%).

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Old 09-21-16, 07:39 PM
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Segment is dope as is! The game is the game!

OMG so much off season madness
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Originally Posted by TMonk
Which PM are you using? My Powertap has a good seal and I ride it in the rain without worries, like this morning.
I think it has more to do with taking his shiny new bike out in the rain, but I've been wrong before.
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Originally Posted by globecanvas
You know, re South Gully, as the segment owner I could edit the end of it. Right now it ends at the driveway before the stop sign. If I changed it, 1 and 2 would switch places but you'd still be 3. I think it's OK how it is though.



PS. it's obviously the off season now!

PPS. Jabba=185 lbs

PPPS. Fun fact, 168 of the 2964 attempts on Mohonk are me (5.7%).
My best is 251 attempts out of 32,792 on Moody Road. Less than 1%
But I'm 18th out of 5208 which is decent.
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Originally Posted by revchuck
I think it has more to do with taking his shiny new bike out in the rain, but I've been wrong before.
Hah. Nailed it.
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
link.

I did this one today. 30w more than my last attempt (2012!) but only 2 seconds due to huge winds. Should have been about 20s faster. You can see the moment I turn into the wind for real.

https://www.strava.com/segments/9213...MsMTQxNDY5MzIz
Still a good bit better than my best, but that isn't saying much on a climb with a big threshold component!
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Question: can going some time without riding a road bike leave you somehow unadapted to the hip angle that's normal for a road fit? I was exclusively on a 'cross bike for almost two months, and I'm finding it's a little bit challenging to make the same power now that I've got a road machine again. I suppose it could also be because the fit is a bit more extreme on the new bike than what I was rocking before, either way, should I expect to have to adapt a bit? I'm sort of hoping so... I can always go to a shorter stem down the line if I need to, though.
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Shyeaa brah. Changing positions takes time to adapt to and is totally normal.
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Originally Posted by grolby
Question: can going some time without riding a road bike leave you somehow unadapted to the hip angle that's normal for a road fit? I was exclusively on a 'cross bike for almost two months, and I'm finding it's a little bit challenging to make the same power now that I've got a road machine again. I suppose it could also be because the fit is a bit more extreme on the new bike than what I was rocking before, either way, should I expect to have to adapt a bit? I'm sort of hoping so... I can always go to a shorter stem down the line if I need to, though.
You're strongest in the position you train in. Reason #1 why it's so stupid that I don't ride my TT bike more.
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
Segment is dope as is! The game is the game!

OMG so much off season madness
You should totally splurge and get Strava Premium so you get live Segments on your Garmin. It makes things soooo much more "fun". Even if it is only for a few months of the year you should DOOOO IIIITTTTT.
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
Shyeaa brah. Changing positions takes time to adapt to and is totally normal.
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You're strongest in the position you train in. Reason #1 why it's so stupid that I don't ride my TT bike more.
Yeah, I mean I guess I know this but I was surprised that it detrained that quickly. Makes sense. Funny thing is, it's actually easy to go from road bike to cx bike and make pretty much the same power. Not so much in the other direction!
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Yesterday, rode from my house 3 of the 5 climbs on Mount Soledad - Cardeno, Soledad Mountain Road and Nautilus. I passed on La Jolla Messa and Via Capri - too steep. Mostly over/under varying the over from 105 to 110%.
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Originally Posted by dz_nuzz
You should totally splurge and get Strava Premium so you get live Segments on your Garmin. It makes things soooo much more "fun". Even if it is only for a few months of the year you should DOOOO IIIITTTTT.
Oh God, this is making sense to me
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Originally Posted by grolby
Yeah, I mean I guess I know this but I was surprised that it detrained that quickly. Makes sense. Funny thing is, it's actually easy to go from road bike to cx bike and make pretty much the same power. Not so much in the other direction!
More open hip angle on CX bike? That'd be my guess.
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