View Poll Results: Do you wave, nod, or acknowledge passing eBike riders?
Yes.
24
29.63%
No.
34
41.98%
Sometimes. I wave as the fancy takes me.
15
18.52%
Only if I'm on an eBike too.
1
1.23%
Other.
7
8.64%
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Do you wave at eBike riders?
05-07-23, 01:54 PM
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05-07-23, 02:02 PM
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One is thus inspired to wonder: does a waver require a waiver in order to have a wave acknowledged by another waver, or is waiving the requirement for waving an indication of a sociopathic condition that is induced by constant pressure from the wavers' collective gaze -- which itself precludes waiving waving -- in an environment that induces recursive alienation?
You're having interdisciplinary studies flashbacks today, right?
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05-07-23, 02:31 PM
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No, I am not. Please explain your remark.
The poster was expressing his opinion on the subject. Unless he has a history of being contrarian, he is entitled to his opinion.
And even IF he is contrarian, so what? Last time I checked cyclists were a tolerant bunch, tolerating even contrarian opinions.
What is is this Cycling Pre-School?
The poster was expressing his opinion on the subject. Unless he has a history of being contrarian, he is entitled to his opinion.
And even IF he is contrarian, so what? Last time I checked cyclists were a tolerant bunch, tolerating even contrarian opinions.
What is is this Cycling Pre-School?
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05-07-23, 02:37 PM
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I have gotten to the point where I don't wave at anyone unless they acknowledge me first. But even then, if they're riding on the sidewalk, going against the flow, just being idiots in general, I still blow them off. I've been spending a lot of time in a touristy kind of area lately and most of the idiots I encounter are on ebikes, so if the shoe fits....
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05-07-23, 02:49 PM
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05-07-23, 03:01 PM
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No, how about you or that other guy explain what the problem is? 
NOTE: OK so I took you up on your offer and checked out beng1 recent post history. So, he pissed off a few people with his opinions. So what?
NOTE: OK so I took you up on your offer and checked out beng1 recent post history. So, he pissed off a few people with his opinions. So what?
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05-07-23, 03:08 PM
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..How do I know ?
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I recently returned and guess what, nothing has changed. The Middle School crowd is still going strong.
Many nice people here, but the rest? MEH!
You are Canadian, according to comedian Lewis Black you are more polite than the average American.
05-07-23, 03:15 PM
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Post #121 shows this is well beyond "contrarian." Enough said.
05-07-23, 03:16 PM
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Contrarian doesn't even begin to explain it. Obnoxious would be a starting point. Like no other.
05-07-23, 03:21 PM
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Here's a peculiar anecdote from a month ago. I was cycling at around 30kph down a hill, indicating left, moving over to the left toward the centre of the road in preparation for an imminent left turn, braking gently, and just coming down to the 5kph point and
Some fricking lycra clad roadie overtakes me, swerving in order to do so, and apologises profusely in the fraction of a second that he whizzes by.
Now, yes, I had looked behind me prior to indicating, and had seen this cyclist some ways behind me. Hence my signal, and he had plenty of time to brake and/or adjust course.
His options were:
a) Brake, to await my left turn before passing.
b) Reduce speed, and impatiently pass on my right.
c) Don't touch the brakes, but really pump those pedals to overtake me on my left just before I reach the left turning.
So, presumably engaged in some sort of time-trial, he picks option 'c'.
The on-topic bit of this anecdote arises about 20 minutes later, when by some amazing coincidence his time-trials circuit brings him cycling towards me, as my leisurely route overlaps with his.
Now, I had a choice of wagging my finger at him, in reprimand for his earlier reckless manoeuvre in which a collision was a severe possibility, or I could just acknowledge him as a fellow cyclist, as I normally would even tho I know solo lycra roadies rarely reciprocate.
I opted for the latter.
And no, he didn't reciprocate.
Some fricking lycra clad roadie overtakes me, swerving in order to do so, and apologises profusely in the fraction of a second that he whizzes by.
Now, yes, I had looked behind me prior to indicating, and had seen this cyclist some ways behind me. Hence my signal, and he had plenty of time to brake and/or adjust course.
His options were:
a) Brake, to await my left turn before passing.
b) Reduce speed, and impatiently pass on my right.
c) Don't touch the brakes, but really pump those pedals to overtake me on my left just before I reach the left turning.
So, presumably engaged in some sort of time-trial, he picks option 'c'.
The on-topic bit of this anecdote arises about 20 minutes later, when by some amazing coincidence his time-trials circuit brings him cycling towards me, as my leisurely route overlaps with his.
Now, I had a choice of wagging my finger at him, in reprimand for his earlier reckless manoeuvre in which a collision was a severe possibility, or I could just acknowledge him as a fellow cyclist, as I normally would even tho I know solo lycra roadies rarely reciprocate.
I opted for the latter.
And no, he didn't reciprocate.
05-07-23, 03:27 PM
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05-07-23, 03:47 PM
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Here's a peculiar anecdote from a month ago. I was cycling at around 30kph down a hill, indicating left, moving over to the left toward the centre of the road in preparation for an imminent left turn, braking gently, and just coming down to the 5kph point and
Some fricking lycra clad roadie overtakes me, swerving in order to do so, and apologises profusely in the fraction of a second that he whizzes by.
Now, yes, I had looked behind me prior to indicating, and had seen this cyclist some ways behind me. Hence my signal, and he had plenty of time to brake and/or adjust course.
His options were:
a) Brake, to await my left turn before passing.
b) Reduce speed, and impatiently pass on my right.
c) Don't touch the brakes, but really pump those pedals to overtake me on my left just before I reach the left turning.
So, presumably engaged in some sort of time-trial, he picks option 'c'.
The on-topic bit of this anecdote arises about 20 minutes later, when by some amazing coincidence his time-trials circuit brings him cycling towards me, as my leisurely route overlaps with his.
Now, I had a choice of wagging my finger at him, in reprimand for his earlier reckless manoeuvre in which a collision was a severe possibility, or I could just acknowledge him as a fellow cyclist, as I normally would even tho I know solo lycra roadies rarely reciprocate.
I opted for the latter.
And no, he didn't reciprocate.
Some fricking lycra clad roadie overtakes me, swerving in order to do so, and apologises profusely in the fraction of a second that he whizzes by.
Now, yes, I had looked behind me prior to indicating, and had seen this cyclist some ways behind me. Hence my signal, and he had plenty of time to brake and/or adjust course.
His options were:
a) Brake, to await my left turn before passing.
b) Reduce speed, and impatiently pass on my right.
c) Don't touch the brakes, but really pump those pedals to overtake me on my left just before I reach the left turning.
So, presumably engaged in some sort of time-trial, he picks option 'c'.
The on-topic bit of this anecdote arises about 20 minutes later, when by some amazing coincidence his time-trials circuit brings him cycling towards me, as my leisurely route overlaps with his.
Now, I had a choice of wagging my finger at him, in reprimand for his earlier reckless manoeuvre in which a collision was a severe possibility, or I could just acknowledge him as a fellow cyclist, as I normally would even tho I know solo lycra roadies rarely reciprocate.
I opted for the latter.
And no, he didn't reciprocate.
05-07-23, 03:58 PM
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If he had been wearing jorts, then I expect he would have chosen option a or b. Even if c, he would no doubt not only have acknowledged me, but would have apologised again on our 2nd encounter.
05-07-23, 04:15 PM
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Paradise. 40 miles in my local hills today and not one e-biker to wave at.
Just fellow compadres pushing hard regardless of their ability getting their workout done.
Its a beautiful thing.
Just fellow compadres pushing hard regardless of their ability getting their workout done.
Its a beautiful thing.
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05-07-23, 05:46 PM
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If it had been an eBike (which precludes lycra), I suppose I would have opted for the wagging finger reprimand on the 2nd encounter.
If he had been wearing jorts, then I expect he would have chosen option a or b. Even if c, he would no doubt not only have acknowledged me, but would have apologised again on our 2nd encounter.
If he had been wearing jorts, then I expect he would have chosen option a or b. Even if c, he would no doubt not only have acknowledged me, but would have apologised again on our 2nd encounter.
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Then a couple of my best cycling buddies got e-bikes and just like that I stopped disliking them (the e-bikes).
I have no plans to get one, but hey to each his/her own.
Have fun, ride safely and live drama free!
05-07-23, 09:26 PM
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Oh dear, must be losing my grip. Did I use that stupid -- and utterly meaningless -- phrase twice in one day? Don't think I did, but could be wrong?
05-07-23, 09:38 PM
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Uh oh, my wife and her friend ride their e-bikes in Lycra and jerseys with seat bags and water bottles, helmets and cycling glasses. It’s a carry over from their racing bike days. A good friend of mine is a dedicated marathoner lives up a 1/4 mile 20% grade driveway way up on the hill. He bought a Specialized racing e-bike virtually indistinguishable from an analogue bike except for the oversized BB. He runs errands on it and will be the first to tell you he is no cyclist but a runner. If he gets killed or injured while riding then he defacto becomes a cyclist, like it or not.
05-07-23, 10:25 PM
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What you are referring to is “social reciprocity”. It’s why companies send a quarter or return address labels in the mail so you will contribute to their cause or the expectation that if you have someone over for a meal, they will do the same. In busy environments, everyone is too busy looking out for their own behinds to worry about waiving and besides, with an increased density of cyclists waiving at each one is ridiculous. Better for everyone in a busy environment to forego is correct. To foregoing entirely, even in sparse rural environments is just your opinion.
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05-08-23, 05:24 AM
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Six pages and we are still getting wave/waive confusion. Sad. 
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