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Old 08-24-22, 01:20 PM
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I think the OP's observations have more to do with her locale than with cyclists in general.

In the several places I've lived and cycled extensively (four different states), I've never seen a single CO2 canister or inner tube on the roadside.
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Old 08-24-22, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ooga-booga
yah...old tubes and co2 cartridges seem to be the worst offenders but the instant energy/powerbar wrappers appear more often than i'd like. c'mon people. pack it out, pack it away responsibly.
I've seen too many of those on the road. I make it a habit to stuff my used food wrappers in the one pocket I won't generally take anything out of till I get home - the one that holds my cleat covers. This is after getting home one time to discover that the wrapper I'd stuffed back in the pocket where I put my food was not there, and had probably fallen out when I grabbed the other package later in the ride.
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The local MUP in my area is pretty busy on weekends, with a fair number of weekday riders, but I still don't see any cartridges or used tubes while riding it. As for regular trash on the same MUP the most common item is plastic water bottles and blue dog poop bags (at least they're not directly on the trail!). I'm curious so I'll have to check the trash cans along the trail to see what's in those; they're along the trail at most of the entry/exit points.

The regular roadways are a little different - no cartridges or tubes, but plenty of beer cans, water bottles, broken bits of glass, and regular paper/plastic/metallic trash, plus the occasional nut/bolt/screw/nail and other random pieces of building/construction debris.

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Old 08-24-22, 01:47 PM
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I go by the backpackers mantra, “pack it and pack it out”.

on some of my local dog walks I take a plastic bag and pick up litter as a community service. No one appreciates litter.
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Old 08-24-22, 02:12 PM
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Ray of Sunshine Department:
The bike/ATV/snow machine trails around here (Vermont and New Hampshire) are pristine. Where they go through a small town, there are often little nests of empty beer cans, but otherwise, nothing but footprints and tire tracks.
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Old 08-24-22, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Pratt
Ray of Sunshine Department:
The bike/ATV/snow machine trails around here (Vermont and New Hampshire) are pristine. Where they go through a small town, there are often little nests of empty beer cans, but otherwise, nothing but footprints and tire tracks.
I have found most power sport people especially jeepers are some of the best stewards of the land, because they now they are under scrutiny and they don't want to be locked out.
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Gun talk is not permitted in these forums. Too controversial. Thanks!
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Old 08-24-22, 09:05 PM
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Riders around here are pretty good. I see GU or similar wrapper from time to time, but can't recall seeing an inner tube.
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Old 08-24-22, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MattTheHat
It always amuses me when the cost of one’s bike and choice of cycling attire is commented on. But it aligns nicely with the revelation that you use Presta caps. No self-respecting $1000 bike riding, Lycra and cycling Jersey wearing cyclist would be found dead using Presta caps!!! Is there a scoffing emoji?
Just to be facetious, I bought presta caps in bulk. Then I went to a mountain pass where riders are famous for resting , snacking and tossing their trash. When they did, I would run up and screw a cap on their valves telling them, this is karma
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Old 08-25-22, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MarcusT
Just to be facetious, I bought presta caps in bulk. Then I went to a mountain pass where riders are famous for resting , snacking and tossing their trash. When they did, I would run up and screw a cap on their valves telling them, this is karma
Isn’t that a hate crime?
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Old 08-25-22, 04:27 AM
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since my Dad passed end of July I've been spending more time at Mom's house. a few weeks ago, in the backyard, near the side street, under one of the big trees, I found a tied up bag of empty beer cans & an empty condom wrapper. WTF!?!
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Old 08-25-22, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by VegasJen
First off, I seriously doubt I'm talking to anybody here. On the off chance I am, then fix yourself. If you know somebody who does this, then I suggest you invite them to find new friends.

I cannot believe how often I ride even around my small town and see old tubes and used CO2 cartridges disposed of on the side of the road. My thinking is that if you were able to carry the good stuff with you to fix a flat, you can damn sure carry the junk stuff home. What is this about? As a community, we need to police those who are irresponsible cyclists.

Like I said, I don't *think* I'm talking to most of the people here. But it sure seems like there are far too many cyclists that want to treat the shoulder of the road as a trash bin.
littering is so annoying. but i'm not sure i've ever seen bike related litter, at least not in the last 10,000 miles that i remember. definitely seen lots of stuff tossed out of cars, cigs, the usual windblown paper and detritus.

i have seen a cartridge once or twice, but in a location that led me to assume it was from whippit use, not a cyclist fixing a flat.
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Old 08-26-22, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
since my Dad passed end of July I've been spending more time at Mom's house. a few weeks ago, in the backyard, near the side street, under one of the big trees, I found a tied up bag of empty beer cans & an empty condom wrapper. WTF!?!
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Old 08-26-22, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
since my Dad passed end of July I've been spending more time at Mom's house. a few weeks ago, in the backyard, near the side street, under one of the big trees, I found a tied up bag of empty beer cans & an empty condom wrapper. WTF!?!
Sounds like a good night for someone.

The first time I rode the GAP I entered one of the lean-tos at the park in Connellsville. Not only was there a empty condom wrapper, the used condom had been left behind. I chose to sleep in the other shelter.

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Old 08-26-22, 05:52 AM
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Can’t say I’ve seen old tubes on the side of the road, but definitely plenty of co2 canisters. I doubt they’re left by cyclists though.
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Old 08-26-22, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jadmt
I have found most power sport people especially jeepers are some of the best stewards of the land, because they now they are under scrutiny and they don't want to be locked out.
I gave up vintage sports car racing because of its impact on the environment. When one gets 8-10 MPG and all that is going out the exhaust, tires being quickly disintegrated and brake dust, it is not environmentally friendly. But at least I was doing it on asphalt and not disrupting flora and fauna while creating noise pollution. I believe the best stewards of the land are day hikers and backpackers. They revere nature for what it is, not conquering it, leave zero trace and leave next to no impact, just boot prints. I get you want to preserve your, or your friends pass time but calling them ‘stewards’ is a bridge too far.
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I was always taught to pick up after myself, no matter what the situation. As bicyclists I think we get a closer look at the side of the road than most people. It's a shame that someone feels they need to leave a spent tube or anything else for that matter at the side of the road.
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I was out walking my dog in a nearby park/open space, and along the trail I saw FIVE separate bags of poop that people had picked up, then tied up the bag and just left it. MAYBE they were going to be returning down the same trail, and planned to pick it up on the way back, but how the hell would anyone know? And who does that anyway? I think it may actually be worse than just leaving the poop in the grass, though since we go 8 months with no rain, a lot of it builds up to be washed down the hills into the creek with the first big storm in the Fall.
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Originally Posted by rsbob
I believe the best stewards of the land are day hikers and backpackers.
A lot of these environmentally friendly hikers and backpackers also have a very militant stance against mountain bikers. They hate mountain biking because they believe that mountain biking is bad for the land. Their obsession with protecting nature is borderline mental illness.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I was out walking my dog in a nearby park/open space, and along the trail I saw FIVE separate bags of poop that people had picked up, then tied up the bag and just left it. MAYBE they were going to be returning down the same trail, and planned to pick it up on the way back, but how the hell would anyone know? And who does that anyway? I think it may actually be worse than just leaving the poop in the grass, though since we go 8 months with no rain, a lot of it builds up to be washed down the hills into the creek with the first big storm in the Fall.
I am a dog owner who studied Bio Sci and Enviro Sci. Dog poop is full of unhealthy germs and the last place you want it washed into are lakes and streams or worse yet, the water table. I bag my dog’s waste, drop it on the way out and pick it up and properly dispose of it. So now you know who one of those people are…concerned for the environment.
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Originally Posted by rsbob
I am a dog owner who studied Bio Sci and Enviro Sci. Dog poop is full of unhealthy germs and the last place you want it washed into are lakes and streams or worse yet, the water table. I bag my dog’s waste, drop it on the way out and pick it up and properly dispose of it. So now you know who one of those people are…concerned for the environment.
Okay, so that's ONE. Would you like to guarantee that everyone else who leaves a bag by the trail is coming back to pick it up? Also, and let me be frank here - do you think I want to see a string of dog poop bags by the trail because you don't want to carry it with you?
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Originally Posted by rsbob
I am a dog owner who studied Bio Sci and Enviro Sci. Dog poop is full of unhealthy germs and the last place you want it washed into are lakes and streams or worse yet, the water table. I bag my dog’s waste, drop it on the way out and pick it up and properly dispose of it. So now you know who one of those people are…concerned for the environment.
many don't pick it back up. I have watched people leave it and the next day it is still there. Face it a lot of people are just lazy.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Okay, so that's ONE. Would you like to guarantee that everyone else who leaves a bag by the trail is coming back to pick it up?
I always walk my dog in a loop around our neighborhood. If she drops a deuce on the first half of the loop, I bag it and drop it, then pick it up on my way back. Saves me the trouble of carrying a bag of dog **** for several blocks. More broadly, think about it: if people weren't going to ultimately dispose of those bags properly, why would they have bagged it in the first place?

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Also, and let me be frank here - do you think I want to see a string of dog poop bags by the trail because you don't want to carry it with you?
As long as we're being frank: are your sensibilities really offended by a little sealed blue bag? That seems a bit delicate.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
I always walk my dog in a loop around our neighborhood. If she drops a deuce on the first half of the loop, I bag it and drop it, then pick it up on my way back. Saves me the trouble of carrying a bag of dog **** for several blocks. More broadly, think about it: if people weren't going to ultimately dispose of those bags properly, why would they have bagged it in the first place?
See jadmt's post, immediately above yours.

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As long as we're being frank: are your sensibilities really offended by a little sealed blue bag? That seems a bit delicate.
Are you really so delicate that you can't carry the bag with you? I mean, my dog is an 80lb Greyhound, and they do ENORMOUS poops, but I don't feel it necessary to bag it and leave it by the trail for later pickup. I just bag it and carry it with me, because even trash that gets picked up later is still trash.
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BTW, the other advantage of carrying it with you is that nobody will mess with you. Who's dumb enough to antagonize somebody armed with a bag of fresh dog poop?
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