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Old 09-24-22, 03:59 PM
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If you are going to sell on eBay, you have to develop a thick skin and you need to do enough transactions where if one goes south, you are still ahead.

im dealing with one right now, $50 pair of shoes. Buyer claimed they never got it even though the USPS confirms delivery….

I had another one where the buyer claimed item was stolen off their porch…. This crap happens but the vast majority goes fine without issues.
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You just reminded me of the time in my teenage days when a joke I was telling fell flat because the guy I was telling it to came up with a better punch line before I could deliver mine.

Mine: "Two Wongs don't make a white."

His: "Occidents will happen."
Perhaps you posted this in the wrong S.F.
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BLUF - the issue is, we have sellers that would like to take advantage of the higher selling prices attained through auction platforms such as eBay mainly due to the greater reach to potential buyers, versus selling on forums with much more limited reach but without all the hassles that come with said auction sites. What, if anything, am I missing?

Edit: Conversely, we have buyers who would like to take advantage of the lower selling points on small forums such as this, versus those realized on auction sites.
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Originally Posted by BMC_Kid
BLUF - the issue is, we have sellers that would like to take advantage of the higher selling prices attained through auction platforms such as eBay mainly due to the greater reach to potential buyers, versus selling on forums with much more limited reach but without all the hassles that come with said auction sites. What, if anything, am I missing?

Edit: Conversely, we have buyers who would like to take advantage of the lower selling points on small forums such as this, versus those realized on auction sites.
Nailed it. But you forgot the part about coming to this forum and wringing your hands for at least 3 pages,

PS - And no matter where you sell or buy, there will always be a-hole sellers and buyers.
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Originally Posted by iab
Nailed it. But you forgot the part about coming to this forum and wringing your hands for at least 3 pages,

PS - And no matter where you sell or buy, there will always be a-hole sellers and buyers.
So what we need is a hobbyist/semi-hobbyist run third-party website, that allows sellers to realize better selling prices than the smaller forums, while maintaining a reasonable level of rules and added fees, and no added commentary...

Ok, I'm in. Who's going to build it?
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Old 09-25-22, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BMC_Kid
So what we need is a hobbyist/semi-hobbyist run third-party website, that allows sellers to realize better selling prices than the smaller forums, while maintaining a reasonable level of rules and added fees, and no added commentary...
Well, there will still be hand wringing. Can't stop that. Still worth it then?
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Old 09-25-22, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by iab
Well, there will still be hand wringing. Can't stop that. Still worth it then?
I think without the BS that eBay has allowed to happen, yes. The customer is not always right and should not be in a position to dictate whether or not the seller gets paid. eBay f'd this up when they tied everything to PayPal (and we all went along with this as what else can we do about it short of leaving?) and that has given them (eBay) the ability to really do what they want with respect to funds into or out of accounts. I think as long as we never institute draconian rules like this, it should be an even playing field. It seems to work for other forums I frequent with sales areas. Sure, you always have the potential for bad transactions between two parties but I think that can be policed within. And I know we as sellers on those other forums are not in the habit of assisting the I R S, that's for damn sure.
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Old 09-25-22, 09:29 AM
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For large items like a bike, I'd try FB marketplace first
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Originally Posted by iab
Nailed it. But you forgot the part about coming to this forum and wringing your hands for at least 3 pages,
We clearly need a whinging emoticon.

Something like this?

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So, I think it's clear to me that if you're a seller, and sell a lot, eBay will probably maximize your profits. Some sales may go south, stores call it shrinkage, and build that into your sales model. There's more work involved filing your income taxes.

If you don't want to deal with the hassle, sell your bike related stuff here. If you're very risk adverse, sell only to people who post enough here to value their reputation enough not to screw you over.
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Old 09-25-22, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Manny66
Duly noted, now make sure and publicly reprimend the other guy for the personal attacks over my simple post. That type of nonsense is not needed as well.
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Old 09-25-22, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
Hdy Manny66 Check this out, it's a refresher https://www.bikeforums.net/faq.php?f...aq_forum_rules

Notably: "Any decision taken by the administrators and moderators is final and must be respected."

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A moderator?,,,And put up with guys like cudakk who feel the need to try and humiliate somebody for writing a letter to Ebay,And chastise somebody for valuing Confente bikes,NO thanks.

Since you feel you feel the need post the the BF Rules,,just cut to the chase and feel free to post any of the BF rules you think I might have broke.

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Originally Posted by grantelmwood
For large items like a bike, I'd try FB marketplace first
I have no idea what FB marketplace is. Link?
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Originally Posted by gugie
If you don't want to deal with the hassle, sell your bike related stuff here. If you're very risk adverse, sell only to people who post enough here to value their reputation enough not to screw you over.
Hahahaha... this is a joke, right? Pennies on the dollar, very limited audience, no thanks.
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Originally Posted by BMC_Kid
Hahahaha... this is a joke, right? Pennies on the dollar, very limited audience, no thanks.
I've bought and sold through the Classic and Vintage Sales forum, maybe not what I'd get on eBay, but no commission, prompt payment, and the people who buy and sell here consider their reputation too important to screw someone over.

But hey, you're 139 posts in, so clearly you know something I don't?
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Originally Posted by gugie
But hey, you're 139 posts in, so clearly you know something I don't?
I'm so glad that the Handsome Cycles XOXO thread exists. There are so many new people there who are genuinely thrilled at the thought of experiencing a C&V KOF bike and are practically dancing on air.

...and then there's this thread.

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Originally Posted by gugie
I've bought and sold through the Classic and Vintage Sales forum, maybe not what I'd get on eBay, but no commission, prompt payment, and the people who buy and sell here consider their reputation too important to screw someone over.

But hey, you're 139 posts in, so clearly you know something I don't?
Clearly.
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Big sigh ! rolls eyes and walks away wondering WHY **********???
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calling dr, fauci: is snark a side effect of long covid? i have enough stress in my life with everything in the news, getting custody of a 16 year old grand daughter, and all the aches and pains associated with getting old. i come here on this forum for some calm and to find a touchstone for the opposite of stress and snark. hope i don't have to take a break from my favorite forum for awhile... don
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Originally Posted by cocoabeachcrab
calling dr, fauci: is snark a side effect of long covid? i have enough stress in my life with everything in the news, getting custody of a 16 year old grand daughter, and all the aches and pains associated with getting old. i come here on this forum for some calm and to find a touchstone for the opposite of stress and snark. hope i don't have to take a break from my favorite forum for awhile... don
Agreed. I've popped off this forum for an extended time now and then and have never seen it this frequently confrontational before.

Sure, there have been heated arguments here before, but usually on the principle of whatever is being discussed. Outright attacks on character straight out of the gate seems to be increasing though - and worryingly widespread.

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Originally Posted by cudak888
Agreed. I've popped off this forum for an extended time now and then and have never seen it this frequently confrontational before.

Sure, there have been heated arguments here before, but usually on the principle of whatever is being discussed. Outright attacks on character straight out of the gate seems to be increasing though - and worryingly widespread.

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i've also been following the 72 colnago for sale thread, and that has me bothered as well.
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Originally Posted by Manny66
A moderator?,,,And put up with guys like cudakk who feel the need to try and humiliate somebody for writing a letter to Ebay,And chastise somebody for valuing Confente bikes,NO thanks.

Since you feel you feel the need post the the BF Rules,,just cut to the chase and feel free to post any of the BF rules you think I might have broke.
Well, we are putting up with you, aren't we? With your finesse and class, I figured you can show us how it's done, since we are not up to par in your eyes.

And in regards to the BF rules, I already posted it, did you not see that part?

If how we are moderating does not sit with you well, be part of the solution, not part of the problem!

But maybe you are right. We should be a little more strict and follow protocol for those who are breaking the guidelines.

Thank you for the reminder.
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Originally Posted by cocoabeachcrab
i've also been following the 72 colnago for sale thread, and that has me bothered as well.
Oh, I don't know. Provided it's viewed as comedy, it's one of the funniest threads here in a while. All it needs is a matching Confente sales thread to be perfect

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any chance this thread can get back to the matter at hand? i'm going to loose my storage space in the spring and i'm pondering how to sell some of my heard, so i'm really interested in where to list some bikes and parts...
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Originally Posted by cocoabeachcrab
any chance this thread can get back to the matter at hand? i'm going to loose my storage space in the spring and i'm pondering how to sell some of my heard, so i'm really interested in where to list some bikes and parts...
List them here, ebay, and paceline. Lots of pics and reasonable prices.
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