Tips for first 100km race
#1
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Tips for first 100km race
Hi all!
After having been cycling again for around 8 weeks I’ve signed up for my first 100km race on Sunday.
I’ve been doing 100-150km per week and longest two or three cycles of around 50km (quite comfortable). I’m just looking to finish! Would like to do so in under 4 hours (optimistic).
Whilst new to cycling I’m coming from a running background (bad knee) so have lots of experiences over half marathons and marathons (tend to tire badly on the marathons though).
The course is pretty flat and shared with cars some some of the distance. Likely to be windy and will get quite warm (Western Australia late spring).
I have one 750ml bike bottle, gloves, and sunglasses.
Any and all tips appreciated! Particularly hydration/nutrition.
Many thanks!
After having been cycling again for around 8 weeks I’ve signed up for my first 100km race on Sunday.
I’ve been doing 100-150km per week and longest two or three cycles of around 50km (quite comfortable). I’m just looking to finish! Would like to do so in under 4 hours (optimistic).
Whilst new to cycling I’m coming from a running background (bad knee) so have lots of experiences over half marathons and marathons (tend to tire badly on the marathons though).
The course is pretty flat and shared with cars some some of the distance. Likely to be windy and will get quite warm (Western Australia late spring).
I have one 750ml bike bottle, gloves, and sunglasses.
Any and all tips appreciated! Particularly hydration/nutrition.
Many thanks!
Likes For billridesbikes:
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 5,734
Bikes: 2022 Salsa Beargrease Carbon Deore 11, 2020 Salsa Warbird GRX 600, 2020 Canyon Ultimate CF SLX disc 9.0 Di2, 2020 Catrike Eola, 2016 Masi cxgr, 2011, Felt F3 Ltd, 2010 Trek 2.1, 2009 KHS Flite 220
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4266 Post(s)
Liked 2,937 Times
in
1,811 Posts
Not sure what kind of race this may be - is it a gran fondo?
How much do you know about drafting and riding in groups?
You need more water. (How warm is "quite warm"? )
Also, a gel or two.
How much do you know about drafting and riding in groups?
You need more water. (How warm is "quite warm"? )
Also, a gel or two.
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 40,865
Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2952 Post(s)
Liked 3,106 Times
in
1,417 Posts
For 100km, I'd need at least one more bottle, maybe two. And I'd also need a few gels or shot blocks. A banana or package of cookies (do you guys say biscuits?) couldn't hurt either.
#5
So it is
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Westminster, CO
Posts: 21,225
Bikes: Luzerne, 684, Boreas, Wheelhouse, Alize©®, Bayamo, Cayo
Mentioned: 245 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11321 Post(s)
Liked 4,634 Times
in
2,700 Posts
They'll likely require a helmet. Sunglasses and gloves are likely optional.
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 5,734
Bikes: 2022 Salsa Beargrease Carbon Deore 11, 2020 Salsa Warbird GRX 600, 2020 Canyon Ultimate CF SLX disc 9.0 Di2, 2020 Catrike Eola, 2016 Masi cxgr, 2011, Felt F3 Ltd, 2010 Trek 2.1, 2009 KHS Flite 220
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4266 Post(s)
Liked 2,937 Times
in
1,811 Posts
When I rode in organized events there, my helmet, brought with me from the US, was not accepted b/c it did not have such a sticker.
Likes For MinnMan:
#7
Sunshine
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 16,538
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10902 Post(s)
Liked 7,390 Times
in
4,148 Posts
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 8,174
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4273 Post(s)
Liked 4,711 Times
in
2,911 Posts
I usually carry 2x 1 litre bottles on this kind of event. But sometimes I'll carry just one bottle if there are reliable feed stations where I can top up.
Nutrition is very personal. I tend to carry both energy bars and gels and consume 1x bar per hour and 2 gels per hour after half distance. I also use energy mix in my water.
Eating, drinking little and often from the start is a good tip. Also don't eat or drink anything you haven't tested on yourself beforehand on training rides.
#9
Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2021
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I did 102 km this past weekend for the first time since starting cycling.
It was cool and I did not hydrate enough. I was short by over a bottle (I'd only brought two bottles that hold ~600 ml) and it showed towards the end where my ability to keep the pace I'd set flagged noticeably. Up to about 2:30 I was fine.
Finished in 3:09 solo, no drafting. It was a flat course, only ~500 meters of climbing but feel I could've done better if I'd hydrated more and sooner.
It was cool and I did not hydrate enough. I was short by over a bottle (I'd only brought two bottles that hold ~600 ml) and it showed towards the end where my ability to keep the pace I'd set flagged noticeably. Up to about 2:30 I was fine.
Finished in 3:09 solo, no drafting. It was a flat course, only ~500 meters of climbing but feel I could've done better if I'd hydrated more and sooner.
#10
I'm good to go!
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 14,810
Bikes: Tarmac Disc Comp Di2 - 2020
Mentioned: 50 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6100 Post(s)
Liked 4,732 Times
in
3,262 Posts
Is this a race or just a ride? If it's not for competition, then don't be racing others. You'll need more water. I put a drink mix in my bottles that is basically all carbohydrate. Depending on the ride, 180 to 220 Calories (kilocalories) per bottle. On 100km rides I'm never hungry. Usually organized events have food and drink stops, but you haven't told us which event you are participating in.
Last edited by Iride01; 11-15-21 at 10:09 AM.
#11
RacingBear
I would also look in to using electrolytes.
Personally on longer rides I start with bars in the beginning, and towards the end use cliff shots with caffeine. For me this produces best results.
Is this a mass start race? If so try to do group rides to get comfortable riding around other people and drafting.
Personally on longer rides I start with bars in the beginning, and towards the end use cliff shots with caffeine. For me this produces best results.
Is this a mass start race? If so try to do group rides to get comfortable riding around other people and drafting.
Likes For UmneyDurak:
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 712
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 283 Post(s)
Liked 262 Times
in
164 Posts
Local info is the best. Wunderground says Sunday in Perth, Australia- Wind increasing. A few clouds from time to time. High 23C. Winds SSW at 25 to 40 km/h. I would look at the course and take that into account. If you ride into that as a headwind it will effectively lengthen the course (a lot), shorten if a tailwind, PIA if from the side. Wind is like a giant hill without a summit. Don't take my word on the weather, check it yourself. I used to tape bananas to the top tube before all the fancy stuff came out. Take more water than you think you need, you can always dump it. Pedialyte 25% water 75% works best for me. Prehydrate if you can. Cramps are the devil. Have a good safe ride, best of luck.
Edit: Don't forget sunscreen
Edit: Don't forget sunscreen
Last edited by grizzly59; 11-15-21 at 12:14 PM.
#13
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bastrop Texas
Posts: 4,416
Bikes: Univega, Peu P6, Peu PR-10, Ted Williams, Peu UO-8, Peu UO-18 Mixte, Peu Dolomites
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 929 Post(s)
Liked 1,595 Times
in
1,021 Posts
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 8,174
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4273 Post(s)
Liked 4,711 Times
in
2,911 Posts
Local info is the best. Wunderground says Sunday in Perth, Australia- Wind increasing. A few clouds from time to time. High 23C. Winds SSW at 25 to 40 km/h. I would look at the course and take that into account. If you ride into that as a headwind it will effectively lengthen the course (a lot), shorten if a tailwind, PIA if from the side. Wind is like a giant hill without a summit. Don't take my word on the weather, check it yourself. I used to tape bananas to the top tube before all the fancy stuff came out. Take more water than you think you need, you can always dump it. Pedialyte 25% water 75% works best for me. Prehydrate if you can. Cramps are the devil. Have a good safe ride, best of luck.
#15
Super-duper Genius
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Muskrat Springs, Utah
Posts: 1,713
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 768 Post(s)
Liked 983 Times
in
508 Posts
Pace yourself... with your riding speed and also nutrition and hydration.
This means don't guzzle water or load up on 100g of carbs right before the start.
But don't forget to eat and drink along the way, either. Sip water before you feel thirsty. Eat a handful of gummy energy chews or a packet of goo (or half a banana if they're available) about every hour.
If you know what pace you're capable of sustaining for 50km (in the expected terrain and wind conditions), watch yourself, and start a bit slower than that. At the 30 or 40km mark, if you're feeling strong you can bump up the pace a little. If you get to 80km and still have something in the tank, you can increase a lot at that point. You probably know this from running marathons and halves: a lot more people start too fast and then hit a wall than those who hold back too much and end up leaving something on the course.
One more tip, something that has been very helpful to me as I've learned and tried to apply it...
Draft whenever possible! (If this race is TT format, or your category doesn't allow drafting, disregard). If it's allowed, try to go with a friend or three, or else make friends with someone at the starting line. Ask if they want to work together with you. Riding on someone's wheel--and safely allowing someone on yours--requires additional concentration and teamwork. But it can make a huge difference... something like 10-15% faster for a given effort. If you're around guys going 25-28 kph and feel you can do 30, maybe sticking with them won't help. But if you feel like you can almost hold 32 going solo and are just afraid of getting exhausted, find someone going that speed and hang with him (get permission, and take your fair turns out front). It can really improve your time by a significant amount.
This means don't guzzle water or load up on 100g of carbs right before the start.
But don't forget to eat and drink along the way, either. Sip water before you feel thirsty. Eat a handful of gummy energy chews or a packet of goo (or half a banana if they're available) about every hour.
If you know what pace you're capable of sustaining for 50km (in the expected terrain and wind conditions), watch yourself, and start a bit slower than that. At the 30 or 40km mark, if you're feeling strong you can bump up the pace a little. If you get to 80km and still have something in the tank, you can increase a lot at that point. You probably know this from running marathons and halves: a lot more people start too fast and then hit a wall than those who hold back too much and end up leaving something on the course.
One more tip, something that has been very helpful to me as I've learned and tried to apply it...
Draft whenever possible! (If this race is TT format, or your category doesn't allow drafting, disregard). If it's allowed, try to go with a friend or three, or else make friends with someone at the starting line. Ask if they want to work together with you. Riding on someone's wheel--and safely allowing someone on yours--requires additional concentration and teamwork. But it can make a huge difference... something like 10-15% faster for a given effort. If you're around guys going 25-28 kph and feel you can do 30, maybe sticking with them won't help. But if you feel like you can almost hold 32 going solo and are just afraid of getting exhausted, find someone going that speed and hang with him (get permission, and take your fair turns out front). It can really improve your time by a significant amount.
Last edited by Broctoon; 11-15-21 at 12:34 PM.
#16
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 1,964
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2644 Post(s)
Liked 474 Times
in
344 Posts
Never actually raced... but I think you should try hard to stay with the fast pack. Drafting will make your ride much faster/easier. In your shoes I would ride hard at first to try and stay with the pack, don't save energy, but that's just me.
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 5,734
Bikes: 2022 Salsa Beargrease Carbon Deore 11, 2020 Salsa Warbird GRX 600, 2020 Canyon Ultimate CF SLX disc 9.0 Di2, 2020 Catrike Eola, 2016 Masi cxgr, 2011, Felt F3 Ltd, 2010 Trek 2.1, 2009 KHS Flite 220
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4266 Post(s)
Liked 2,937 Times
in
1,811 Posts
No follow up from OP?
Drawing the obvious conclusion.
Drawing the obvious conclusion.
Likes For MinnMan:
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Nor-Cal
Posts: 3,767
Bikes: lots
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1958 Post(s)
Liked 2,932 Times
in
1,489 Posts
'Race'? I don't think it's a real race. There is also some really bad, thoughtless advice in some replies, obviously from posters that have never been near an actual race.
#19
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,297
Bikes: Too many.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 92 Post(s)
Liked 174 Times
in
86 Posts
Is it a race? Or is it a Fondo? If it's a race, prepare to get shelled. 8 weeks to race MIGHTY quick. Running fitness doesn't always equate to cycling fitness (nor the other way around).
If it's a Fondo, I'd imagine that there will be rest/resupply stops. If so, you'll be fine.
If it's a race, you'll need far more hydration (probably with some carbs/calories included) and some on-bike nutrition (gels, etc.).
If it's a Fondo, I'd imagine that there will be rest/resupply stops. If so, you'll be fine.
If it's a race, you'll need far more hydration (probably with some carbs/calories included) and some on-bike nutrition (gels, etc.).
Likes For billridesbikes:
#22
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 8,174
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4273 Post(s)
Liked 4,711 Times
in
2,911 Posts
Is it a race? Or is it a Fondo? If it's a race, prepare to get shelled. 8 weeks to race MIGHTY quick. Running fitness doesn't always equate to cycling fitness (nor the other way around).
If it's a Fondo, I'd imagine that there will be rest/resupply stops. If so, you'll be fine.
If it's a race, you'll need far more hydration (probably with some carbs/calories included) and some on-bike nutrition (gels, etc.).
If it's a Fondo, I'd imagine that there will be rest/resupply stops. If so, you'll be fine.
If it's a race, you'll need far more hydration (probably with some carbs/calories included) and some on-bike nutrition (gels, etc.).
#23
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Thanks for replies all! Particularly nutrition. I think most regards that and hydration were close to being spot on for me.
So I guess I got my cycling vernacular wrong (work in progress); this was a ride. I didn’t realise the two (ride vs race) were necessarily different. I come from a running background and pretty much any organised event could be described as a race or a run (simple example, Park Run. Plenty just do it as a community run, guys up front compete, others go hard after a PB). The terms are used interchangeably.
I took one 600ml bottle and that would definitely not have been enough, but I was aware there were at least three water stations which ended up offering as much water and electrolytes as I could drink/carry. The last one also provided bananas and jelly snakes.
I had four gels with me (used two) and an energy bar (didn’t use).
Enjoyed the first half, we’re large groups had formed, but these splintered, for a variety of reasons, by the second half and my friend and I were essentially left to ourselves cycling some pretty busy roads. Not enjoyable.
We finished in 3hr55, which I’m happy with, but he (my friend) broke around 70km and I stuck with him home. As such I’m not sure when my own break would have come/what time I could have finished.
In future I’m going to need more fluid/electrolyte carrying capacity if I’m actually racing! Nutrition was ok.
Thanks for all the tips though (approved helmet, drafting, etc.).
Drafting was difficult as finding people at the same pace was challenging. My friend and I tried to draft for each other, but even we’d vary particularly as he broke.
Thanks
So I guess I got my cycling vernacular wrong (work in progress); this was a ride. I didn’t realise the two (ride vs race) were necessarily different. I come from a running background and pretty much any organised event could be described as a race or a run (simple example, Park Run. Plenty just do it as a community run, guys up front compete, others go hard after a PB). The terms are used interchangeably.
I took one 600ml bottle and that would definitely not have been enough, but I was aware there were at least three water stations which ended up offering as much water and electrolytes as I could drink/carry. The last one also provided bananas and jelly snakes.
I had four gels with me (used two) and an energy bar (didn’t use).
Enjoyed the first half, we’re large groups had formed, but these splintered, for a variety of reasons, by the second half and my friend and I were essentially left to ourselves cycling some pretty busy roads. Not enjoyable.
We finished in 3hr55, which I’m happy with, but he (my friend) broke around 70km and I stuck with him home. As such I’m not sure when my own break would have come/what time I could have finished.
In future I’m going to need more fluid/electrolyte carrying capacity if I’m actually racing! Nutrition was ok.
Thanks for all the tips though (approved helmet, drafting, etc.).
Drafting was difficult as finding people at the same pace was challenging. My friend and I tried to draft for each other, but even we’d vary particularly as he broke.
Thanks
Likes For Cramic:
#24
Senior Member
Congrats on your ride and good for you for sticking with your buddy ("mate?")
I think that most of us have been "off the back" more than once, and also waited for friends who are a tad slower. If you're not going to win a gold medal, then you might as well enjoy yourself.
I think that most of us have been "off the back" more than once, and also waited for friends who are a tad slower. If you're not going to win a gold medal, then you might as well enjoy yourself.
#25
Banned
Your objectives are quite reasonable and the only real difference with the longer ride is needing more calories along the way. I have always found raisins to be easy to eat while riding, easy to digest, and they provide a lot of calories for energy. I start with a high carb breakfast of pancakes which are easy to digest and do not slow me down out on the road. I avoid eating meat which tends to bog my body down.
I would focus on maintaining a constant speed but do not worry if a head or side wind makes it more difficult and you need to slow down. Having other riders to block the wind will allow you to use a higher gear and lower RPM's. But be very careful as if your front wheel hits the rear wheel of another rider you are likely to crash and find yourself on the ground.
I would focus on maintaining a constant speed but do not worry if a head or side wind makes it more difficult and you need to slow down. Having other riders to block the wind will allow you to use a higher gear and lower RPM's. But be very careful as if your front wheel hits the rear wheel of another rider you are likely to crash and find yourself on the ground.