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Old 09-11-22, 09:30 AM
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'Tall' French stems?

Is there such a thing as a 'tall' vintage stem for a French steerer? What a really need is a slightly bigger frame, and I know I can sand down a Technomic, etc, to fit (and to look out for death-stem cracks, etc), but I just really love the look of these vintage stems....

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Um, no IMO.

"Death stem" tales aside, most stems of the day and especially French ones were flexy, sketchy, tweaky and a bit scary in general, especially in hard use.

Many twisted and seemed to be deemed not a critical safety component.

I've never trusted the short ones.

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Originally Posted by merziac
@ehcoplex

Um, no IMO.

"Death stem" tales aside, most stems of the day and especially French ones were flexy, sketchy, tweaky and a bit scary in general, especially in hard use.

Many twisted and seemed to be deemed not a critical safety component.

I've never trusted the short ones.
yeah, I know… I’ll probably end up with a Technomic. There’s a nice on that Velo Orange sells that looks like the vintage style that would give me a few more cms of height, but sadly it’s cro-mo, so sanding it to fit wouldn’t work..
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I bought a French bike that had one of those tall adjustable stems fitted!
had butterfly stingray type handlebars fitted too.
I donated those but there must be something out there. If you must.
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Originally Posted by ehcoplex
yeah, I know… I’ll probably end up with a Technomic. There’s a nice on that Velo Orange sells that looks like the vintage style that would give me a few more cms of height, but sadly it’s cro-mo, so sanding it to fit wouldn’t work..
I've always written them off for their crude "charming" aesthetic aside from all else.

I bought my first quality, a 3t Record stem in HS and never looked back, chucking anything less in the "virtual" bin from then on.

That stem, the "Mighty" Sugino MIghty Competition crank that came on my first good bike, Campy 2 bolt SP and 1st gen. engraved Mafac 2000 brakeset that I upgraded to set the bar from then on as all of them had excellent fit, finish, function and aesthetic, all are beautiful to me.
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While not French in appearance tall stems made in French dimensions; 22.0mm quill shaft and 25.0mm Bar clamp do exist.
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I got a couple of these at the co-op. A 80mm that is quite tall and a 100mm that is above average tall and they both fit my French bikes. It could tide you over while you keep looking for a bike "your size".

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Old 09-11-22, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Classtime
I got a couple of these at the co-op. A 90mm that is quite tall and a 110mm that is above average tall and they both fit my French bikes. It could tide you over while you keep looking for a bike "your size".

Appreciated- but I actually do have a tall Technomic on another bike that doesn't get ridden that I could 'borrow' and sand down. The stem on the bike now is as high as I dare, and most of the time the height feels fine.... but age-related neck issues are compounding and telling me I need to get the bars higher, up sooner or later..
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I would suggest getting a taller frame, for a nice French fit. Being able to use (those pretty French) short stems being one of the reasons.
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Old 09-11-22, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
I would suggest getting a taller frame, for a nice French fit. Being able to use (those pretty French) short stems being one of the reasons.
Oh, believe me, I've had my eye out! I pretty much love everything about this bike, so I've been hoping to find another '72, blue PX-10 with a larger frame (or just the frame) to move all the parts from this one to. Thought maybe I'd found a good candidate a couple months ago, but turned out the stays on one side were bent....
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Originally Posted by Nwvlvtnr
While not French in appearance tall stems made in French dimensions; 22.0mm quill shaft and 25.0mm Bar clamp do exist.
The SR stems are pretty close to 22.0. The one pictured is common it seems with its 60mm extension. 180mm tall I think. I found one in 80mm extension and 22.0 and the relatively tall 180mm. It was still an okay fit in my old Fuji with 22.2 steerer since it was a quill stem. I did shim it a bit, but probably wasn’t necessary.
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Old 09-11-22, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sd5782
The SR stems are pretty close to 22.0.
Especially the ones so marked.
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Originally Posted by oneclick
Especially the ones so marked.
+10. One reason I continue to pick up vintage Motobecanes. Most came with made in Japan parts in French sizes: stems and bottom brackets. Many Motobecanes even came with Swiss sized BBs! I just bought two more MBs. I tend to pick up 5 or more each year. They also tended to have Suntour derailleurs. Last one I picked up had nice Vx GT RD, Suntour barcons, SR forged stem, Swiss BB, and more.

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I have 4 SR stems in my stash including two of the tall 60mm ones. None are marked for diameter. Sizes range from 21.8-22.1. It would be an option for the OP and a local co-op. I considered myself lucky to find one in 80x180 on eBay after a bit of searching, but that one was marked 22.
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Old 09-17-22, 02:18 PM
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While not exactly what the op was looking for, a very sturdy (not aluminum, heavy) and tall french dimension stem could be had for cheap from https://hollandbikeshop.com/en-gb/bi...silver-577937/
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I'm thinking now I'll just hold out for a while & intensify my search for a larger frame- & if the frame search isn't fruitful I'll do the tall Technomic thing....
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