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Vintage Hub Questions
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For sentimental reasons I am restoring a 1979 Schwinn letour IV 10 speed. Probably going to take some gas for doing so but nevertheless I would appreciate any help or guidance on how I might upgrade or restore the rear hub which has a bent axle and rough bearing cones. Apparently replacement parts are not available for the original hub which I believe to be a Maillard Schwinn approved with the numbers 27-78 stamped into the metal. I’m considering upgrading to another/better vintage brand/model if replacement parts are available for another model. Plus from what I understand the original hubs aren’t very good. I have no idea what to look for. I’d like to use the original freewheel which has 1.375x24tpi threads. I think the dropout width is 125mm? I want to be able to ride the bike so I’m open to better quality components vs original where necessary. The front hub arrears ok but honestly I haven’t inspected the cones carefully yet. Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
For sentimental reasons I am restoring a 1979 Schwinn letour IV 10 speed. Probably going to take some gas for doing so but nevertheless I would appreciate any help or guidance on how I might upgrade or restore the rear hub which has a bent axle and rough bearing cones. Apparently replacement parts are not available for the original hub which I believe to be a Maillard Schwinn approved with the numbers 27-78 stamped into the metal. I’m considering upgrading to another/better vintage brand/model if replacement parts are available for another model. Plus from what I understand the original hubs aren’t very good. I have no idea what to look for. I’d like to use the original freewheel which has 1.375x24tpi threads. I think the dropout width is 125mm? I want to be able to ride the bike so I’m open to better quality components vs original where necessary. The front hub arrears ok but honestly I haven’t inspected the cones carefully yet. Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
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Look at your local sales threads and /or co-op
Always find wheels on sale that will fit that frame at either. Probably if original wheels, you have 27s. I'd consider a 700 set as more tire selection than 27s. If you find a cheap set of 27s they're fine just ignore steel rims and get only aluminum.
You have an ISO freewheel that fits an ISO hub. Most US and Canada hubs were ISO. You have either a 5 or 6 speed freewheel, probably a 6 as I believe it was originally a 12 speed (??).
Please update profile to show location and someone might be local who knows a source for you to find a wheel set.
Always find wheels on sale that will fit that frame at either. Probably if original wheels, you have 27s. I'd consider a 700 set as more tire selection than 27s. If you find a cheap set of 27s they're fine just ignore steel rims and get only aluminum.
You have an ISO freewheel that fits an ISO hub. Most US and Canada hubs were ISO. You have either a 5 or 6 speed freewheel, probably a 6 as I believe it was originally a 12 speed (??).
Please update profile to show location and someone might be local who knows a source for you to find a wheel set.
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Look at your local sales threads and /or co-op
Always find wheels on sale that will fit that frame at either. Probably if original wheels, you have 27s. I'd consider a 700 set as more tire selection than 27s. If you find a cheap set of 27s they're fine just ignore steel rims and get only aluminum.
You have an ISO freewheel that fits an ISO hub. Most US and Canada hubs were ISO. You have either a 5 or 6 speed freewheel, probably a 6 as I believe it was originally a 12 speed (??).
Please update profile to show location and someone might be local who knows a source for you to find a wheel set.
Always find wheels on sale that will fit that frame at either. Probably if original wheels, you have 27s. I'd consider a 700 set as more tire selection than 27s. If you find a cheap set of 27s they're fine just ignore steel rims and get only aluminum.
You have an ISO freewheel that fits an ISO hub. Most US and Canada hubs were ISO. You have either a 5 or 6 speed freewheel, probably a 6 as I believe it was originally a 12 speed (??).
Please update profile to show location and someone might be local who knows a source for you to find a wheel set.
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If you want to buy vintage hubs and build them up on your new 36h rims, what you're looking for is a matching hubset with good (36 count) spoke holes that either hasn't been built up ("nos") or has only been built up once and includes matching skewers. The rear can be either for 126mm or 120mm (preferred) spacing. If 126, you can either spread the frame a little bit (only 4mm from your current 122) to accommodate (and use a 6- of 7-speed freewheel), or you can use a hacksaw on the axle and skewer to keep it a 5-speed.
I have a Campy Nuovo Tipo low-flange set that meets your 5-speed criteria. If you're interested, send me a pm. If I were you, I would go to a co-op. You've mentioned that you want to retain the look of your old high-flange hubs.
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That other thread being only Italian.
If you want to buy vintage hubs and build them up on your new 36h rims, what you're looking for is a matching hubset with good (36 count) spoke holes that either hasn't been built up ("nos") or has only been built up once and includes matching skewers. The rear can be either for 126mm or 120mm (preferred) spacing. If 126, you can either spread the frame a little bit (only 4mm from your current 122) to accommodate (and use a 6- of 7-speed freewheel), or you can use a hacksaw on the axle and skewer to keep it a 5-speed.
I have a Campy Nuovo Tipo low-flange set that meets your 5-speed criteria. If you're interested, send me a pm. If I were you, I would go to a co-op. You've mentioned that you want to retain the look of your old high-flange hubs.
If you want to buy vintage hubs and build them up on your new 36h rims, what you're looking for is a matching hubset with good (36 count) spoke holes that either hasn't been built up ("nos") or has only been built up once and includes matching skewers. The rear can be either for 126mm or 120mm (preferred) spacing. If 126, you can either spread the frame a little bit (only 4mm from your current 122) to accommodate (and use a 6- of 7-speed freewheel), or you can use a hacksaw on the axle and skewer to keep it a 5-speed.
I have a Campy Nuovo Tipo low-flange set that meets your 5-speed criteria. If you're interested, send me a pm. If I were you, I would go to a co-op. You've mentioned that you want to retain the look of your old high-flange hubs.
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The most economical and cost effective way to good aluminum 27 (630mm) wheels is to simply search for a something from circa 1983 - 1985 and you'll likely find that they will most likely have a 6 speed freewheel. You should be able to find a decent set of used wheels for a reasonably low cost, even having them shipped to you.
The reason is that there are more decent used 27 wheelsets out there that have been salvaged from ordinary decent marque base models and small women's frames etc than there is demand for 27 aluminum wheels. By 1984 most quality Japanese marques' like FUJI probably did feature ALUMINUM 27" wheels on even it's most inexpensive, economy models, so you shouldn't find it too difficult to locate a pair of satisfactory ALUMINUM wheels, although you may not easily locate the large flange style wheels.
ALUMINUM 27 (630mm) wheels were standard on most affordable mid-grade offerings from quality marques by 1978 or 1979 so there should no problems finding suitable used wheels. Now, having said that, be forewarned that USED wheelsets likely could require truing and other repairs to spokes, and most importantly such used aluminum wheels could have cracks that may not have been noticed by the seller, and not visible in the limited photographs that the seller has taken of the used rims.
New wheel set would eliminate these potential problem areas that used wheels could possibly have.
Other LeTour information and how to & why from other Le Tour owners, that you should probably read through:
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...v-schwinn.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...letour-iv.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...how-yours.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...set-value.html
The reason is that there are more decent used 27 wheelsets out there that have been salvaged from ordinary decent marque base models and small women's frames etc than there is demand for 27 aluminum wheels. By 1984 most quality Japanese marques' like FUJI probably did feature ALUMINUM 27" wheels on even it's most inexpensive, economy models, so you shouldn't find it too difficult to locate a pair of satisfactory ALUMINUM wheels, although you may not easily locate the large flange style wheels.
ALUMINUM 27 (630mm) wheels were standard on most affordable mid-grade offerings from quality marques by 1978 or 1979 so there should no problems finding suitable used wheels. Now, having said that, be forewarned that USED wheelsets likely could require truing and other repairs to spokes, and most importantly such used aluminum wheels could have cracks that may not have been noticed by the seller, and not visible in the limited photographs that the seller has taken of the used rims.
New wheel set would eliminate these potential problem areas that used wheels could possibly have.
Other LeTour information and how to & why from other Le Tour owners, that you should probably read through:
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...v-schwinn.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...letour-iv.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...how-yours.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...set-value.html
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I might have a pair of Schwinn branded hubs that I could offer on a pay it forward basis; Western 'burbs are within my local stomping area
If you can wait until later today I can check my parts bin after work.
If you can wait until later today I can check my parts bin after work.
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Have you tried loosescrews.com? I've ordered axles and cones from them to return some of my old hubs (1980's) to running smooth. I haven't ordered from them in a long time, though (over 10 years) so I don't know what they have for inventory.
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Thanks for the tip on loosescrews.com. Didn’t see anything specific to older French hubs there now but lots of shimano stuff. Not sure if shimano parts would work or even if the threads would be the same.
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If you're still interested, I'll take and post photos.
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Thanks for the help. The old (existing) rear axle is solid so yes a solid axle and good cone nuts would work for me.