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Old 03-25-21, 11:56 AM
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Skeptical regarding this epiphany....
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Old 03-25-21, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by philbob57 View Post
Of course you felt too stretched out. You didn't think you needed to ride some and give your body a chance to adapt to a new position on a new bike?

A stem of 100-130 mm and dropped bars would probably put you where you'll eventually want to be.

I gave it a try. I completely dreaded it. It wasn't terrible, but switching to a 40mm stem with the drop bars felt much better, yet still aggressive enough where I would still have to adapt to a fairly aggressive position.

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Alternately, you can allow for the possibility that the people on the forum you are seeking advice from might know what they are talking about.

And you sure donít look like youíve lost thirty pounds since those first pics you posted. No offense.
Since then no. Last year before i got a bike in March, i weighed 245. I was working out everyday and eating crazy amounts of food . I got down to 220 after biking everyday which is the weight I usually hovered around. Then, in December I ended up getting down to around 190lb.
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Old 03-25-21, 02:29 PM
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By the way, I switched to this 80mm riser stem I had laying around. The "effective" length is 70mm. It feels much, much better than the 40mm stem after trying it out quickly. Its still not long enough to put my into a position which the bike is designed around, however. I'll ride around like this a bit and start to gradually switch to longer stems with the goal of comfortably adjusting to 100mm.
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Old 03-25-21, 02:34 PM
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So honestly, I do love the bike and all, but considering thst I didn't find it comfortable with the stem and bars it was designed around indicates its not the bike for me despite the fact I've made it work well for me.

Do you guys in your racy positions genuinely find butt comfort even with those very stiff, thinly padded seats?
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Since then no. Last year before i got a bike in March, i weighed 245. I was working out everyday and eating crazy amounts of food . I got down to 220 after biking everyday which is the weight I usually hovered around. Then, in December I ended up getting down to around 190lb.
So you were making your nonsensical assertions about bike fit after you lost the weight, correct?

And I donít care how you fit your bike or donít. Iím just concerned some total newbies thatíre actually looking for and are receptive to advice/suggestions on bike fit are going to come on here, see some of your stuff and take that as an actual baseline to work with.
Think about it.
Thatíd be messed up, man.
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Originally Posted by Moisture View Post
Do you guys in your racy positions genuinely find butt comfort even with those very stiff, thinly padded seats?
In a word, yes; because in the right position my saddle is only taking some of the weight; some of the time. A lot goes through my pedals and I can support a fair amount with my hands / shoulders but that just comes from experience.
(Humblebrag): My saddle has virtually no padding at all yet on Sunday I rode 108 miles with 7000ft of climbing on my fixed gear bike; I was on the bike for about 8 hours; I had absolutely no butt soreness whatsoever.
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Sure I was pretty useless for a couple of days but no localised pain at all. The more upright your position, the more weight youíre putting on your butt and more shock through your spine.
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Do you guys in your racy positions genuinely find butt comfort even with those very stiff, thinly padded seats?
Yes. There is an adaption period, and finding the right shape for your body is critical, but I have no saddle discomfort doing 4+ hour rides. If you're not aware, sitting on a bike seat is not like sitting on a chair. The "sit bones" of your pelvis are the critical points.
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Old 03-25-21, 08:56 PM
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You had a cadence of 88 in the first video with a little fluctuation between the start of the video and the ending of it. You were picking up speed as you rode off into the sunset...
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You guys should not feed the troll.
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I think Koyote has the right perspective on this.
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You guys should not feed the troll.
It's like telling someone not to feed the animals in the wild, does that stop them? Not me.
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Old 03-26-21, 02:12 PM
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You had a cadence of 88 in the first video with a little fluctuation between the start of the video and the ending of it. You were picking up speed as you rode off into the sunset...
So my cadence isn't actually "slower than average" i gather.
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So my cadence isn't actually "slower than average" i gather.
Your cadence beats mine all to . I'm in cadence rehab though and working on getting better.
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Your cadence beats mine all to . I'm in cadence rehab though and working on getting better.
Towards the end of the first video where I speed up a little is about the faster i can reasonably coordinate myself to spin. Beyond that, I begin to bounce and deliver the power a little too lumpy.

I'm really happy with the way these 190mm crank arms feel for my spin. Its so much better than what i have used in the past.

In the future, I think I would go 187.5mm.

As for the 80mm stem I'm currently using, I feel like I shouldn't go any longer. Do you guys think that the Nishiki is still a good choice for me despite the fact im not exactly riding it in the position it was designed for? It fits me comfortably as is and I love riding it, but if it wasn't for the thickly padded seat, I wouldn't be able to ride it very far.
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With that being said obviously its better to have too much weight in your saddle versus your handlebars..
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You are putting too much weight on your saddle... because stem is too short. It shows in the videos. it's not a bike seat, it's a saddle. Their is a difference. You are sitting on the bike, peddaling the bike. You should be riding the bike. Looks like you are peddaling a spin bike.
Frame size looks good to me. Listen to what everyone is telling you.
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Old 03-28-21, 11:56 AM
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With that being said obviously its better to have too much weight in your saddle versus your handlebars..
Unless the reason you put so much weight on your 'bars is that your core is weak. The fault, dear Moisture, is likely to be not in our bike's fit, but in ourselves....
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Old 03-30-21, 08:27 AM
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I'm going to change to my original 100mm stem today. I will upload pics of my bike with the current 80mm stem as well.

quite frankly, I am getting sick of riding so upright with my weight in the saddle.. putting my body over the bars with a 90 degree bend in my elbows, it becomes especially apparently just how long of a stem I need to achieve the proper riding position.
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Old 03-30-21, 07:18 PM
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90 degree elbow bend? Where did that come from? Do you mean 90 degree shoulder angle?
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^^^^ He mentioned that in this thread as well. https://www.bikeforums.net/fitting-y...size-stem.html Like so much of this weird stuff, nobody knows how he came up with it.
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He Moisture, how tall are you?
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Old 04-04-21, 08:02 AM
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He Moisture, how tall are you?
I'm about 191cm.

I switched back to my original 100mm stem yesterday. I'm very happy with the fit. I already have the bars comfortably below the saddle, but Im still not quite as low as i would like.

Ican see why you guys suggested 140mm for the stem - if i really want to get low.

The longer stem slowed down the handling more than I expected. But the bike feels great. I will get around to uploading another cruising video sometime.
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Huh, who woulda thunk it?
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Much better!

Would going 120-140mm stem be too long? The handling already slowed down enough. It feels fantastic at speed though.

140mm + flat bars i think will be the longest id want to go even with long term goals in mind.

If I find a drop bar that is wider at the hoods (not just the drops like those gravel bars) , ill consider switching back.
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