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I HATE when cyclists stop cars with a green light

Old 05-25-23, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyBike
Easy as 1,2,3!

1. Look both ways before crossing the street, even a one way street.

2. If you can't see, you can't go.

3. If you're NOT SURE, you can't go.

You don't even have to look at the pretty lights at all if you follow the 1,2,3 rules! Unless it looks like the traffic light pole might FALL on you there is no danger from that direction. It's the other road users that'll kill ya. Who had the right of way is your heirs problem if you mess up.
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Originally Posted by rc5781
You hate me because I don't wear a helmet, buy cheaper bikes, do as little maintenance as possible, buy my tools and lights from China, buy my tires from Walmart. If I was in the industry, .
Don't sell yourself short, it's much more than that.
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Originally Posted by JoeyBike
Easy as 1,2,3!

1. Look both ways before crossing the street, even a one way street.

2. If you can't see, you can't go.

3. If you're NOT SURE, you can't go.

You don't even have to look at the pretty lights at all if you follow the 1,2,3 rules! Unless it looks like the traffic light pole might FALL on you there is no danger from that direction. It's the other road users that'll kill ya. Who had the right of way is your heirs problem if you mess up.
This is my style...
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No.

I only cross when it is my legal right, at least when vehicles are around. At 2 am or on a desolate country road, I will roll a stop sign.

Will I walk in front of a car that has a green light? No way. Not in a million years.
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Old 05-25-23, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rc5781
If someone is gaslighting you, interact with them as little as possible...
You keep using that word I don't think it means what you think it means - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
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Originally Posted by rc5781
If someone is gaslighting you, interact with them as little as possible...

Who is gaslighting you and how?

Merriam Webster
Gaslighting-- psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one's emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator.

Please tell us what anyone is doing to psychologically manipulate you.
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Wow, I'm a glutton for punishment. 7 pages of this nonsense - and I read it all??

OP, you've done another bang-up job of alienating literally everyone, even those who agree with you. I've made it a personal rule that I don't accept courtesy from drivers, regardless. This means in the circumstances you've described I will shake my head no, look away, sometimes even turn around, if I have to - all to ensure that I'm not ever in the circumstance of pulling out in front of someone who has the right-of-way. This is my personal choice, and trying to force it on anyone else (other than my kids, with whom I sometimes ride) would be pointless and stupid. No one is gaslighting you and no one here wants to argue anywhere near as much as you clearly do. Stop being such an absolute walnut.
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Old 05-26-23, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rc5781
Maybe not. The whole point of this thread is...if you answer "yes" to the poll question, you are making this dangerous scenario to more likely occur in the future.
BTW, that's categorically, objectively not true. My answer to your poll question has anything to do with your dangerous scenario. The poll question doesn't even ask about the dangerous scenario.
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Old 05-26-23, 07:15 AM
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This "car stopped with a green light" thing happened to me in a slightly different way the other day, and it really pissed me off.

I'm in the left lane signalling a left turn with arm extended in sort of a busy section of road waiting on oncoming traffic to clear. I'm hoping I can do so quickly so car traffic behind me doesn't catch up and put more pressure on me. There are only two cars in oncoming traffic one behind the other, and the lead car ******* stops at his green light. Had they both just proceeded normally, I could have gone safely behind them. Instead, I have to make a quick decision, follow his cue, turn left, and almost get run over by an unseen electric unicycle traveling fast on the sidewalk, behind me to my left. He broke hard and we missed each other, thankfully.

tldr: I wish cars would just follow the rules of the road and avoid doing me any ******* favors.

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Old 05-26-23, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
This "car stopped with a green light" thing happened to me in a slightly different way the other day, and it really pissed me off.

I'm in the left lane signalling a left turn with arm extended in sort of a busy section of road waiting on oncoming traffic to clear. I'm hoping I can do so quickly so car traffic behind me doesn't catch up and put more pressure on me. There are only two cars in oncoming traffic one behind the other, and the lead car ******* stops with at his green light. Had they both just proceeded normally, I could have gone safely behind them. Instead, I have to make a quick decision, follow his cue, turn left, and almost get run over by an unseen electric unicycle traveling fast on the sidewalk, behind me to my left. He broke hard and we missed each other, thankfully.

tldr: I wish cars would just follow the rules of the road and avoid doing me any ******* favors.
Don't know everything that was going on in your scenario, but a possible option in the future could be to go behind the car that's waving you on or both cars that have stopped and then make the left. Of course assuming there are no other cars coming.

I often do this for cars with a red light, turning right onto the street I'm traveling on, in the direction I'm travelling. Make sure the car attempting a right is at a complete stop. Make sure any car behind them is at or almost at a complete stop. Go behind the first car and keep going straight. It just keeps things flowing. The first car doesn't have to wait for me to pass in front of them and I don't have to worry about that car not seeing me and hitting me.
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Originally Posted by rc5781
a possible option in the future could be to go behind the car that's waving you on.
Yeah, I do that at small intersections. This one was rather big.
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Originally Posted by rc5781
Don't know everything that was going on in your scenario, but a possible option in the future could be to go behind the car that's waving you on or both cars that have stopped and then make the left. Of course assuming there are no other cars coming.
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And he'd still almost get hit by the unicycle because all he did was obscure his view of traffic coming from his left with the cars he just went behind.

I don't think anyone is looking for your advice on how to handle situations you aren't present at.
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
Yeah, I do that at small intersections. This one was rather big.

I find that these situations are usually only dilemmas where there are multiple lanes of traffic and sidewalks.
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I come to a complete stop at all stop signs and lights. When a vehicle with the right of way inappropriately stops to let me 'go' at an intersection, I wave them on and wait them out. God only knows how many times I would have been hit when a vehicle blew by the stopped vehicle on the left, or coming the opposite direction.
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I was at the same intersection again today. A clueless road biker accelerated into the crosswalk, but this time the cars didn't stop. Dude almost got hit and stranded himself in the middle of the road.
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Originally Posted by rc5781
I was at the same intersection again today. A clueless road biker accelerated into the crosswalk, but this time the cars didn't stop. Dude almost got hit and stranded himself in the middle of the road.

And?

Yeah, he shouldn't've oughta not done that Bad, clueless bike rider, bad!

What's it got to do with the readers of this thread? Literally no one has suggested that's a good idea.
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Originally Posted by rc5781
I was at the same intersection again today. A clueless road biker accelerated into the crosswalk, but this time the cars didn't stop. Dude almost got hit and stranded himself in the middle of the road.
Enough already!!!!
It is IMPOSSIBLE to have an intelligent discussing on this thread which you started. You keep changing the question after we answer.

Waa-a-a-a-a-y back (post #13, see below) I posited two scenarios, one like this, and one about accepting an invite from an overly cautious driver. You specifically said it was about the second, and posited all sorts of other car scenarios.

Originally Posted by FBinNY
I'm not sure I understand the OP.

If he's talking about riding through intersections without right of way and forcing cars to stop to avoid collision, it's not only inconsiderate, it's also stupid and dangerous.

OTOH - if the OP taking about about situations where drivers are simply trying to be courteous then I don't consider this an issue at all. If you don't create a situation where the driver feels he must yield, then (other considerations permitting) why not accept it as an act of good will. .......
Now you're posting about something that's back to the first scenario which we all agree is dumb and has NOTHING to do with your BS about if drivers yield right of way when they have the light.

What next? some cyclist racing across a 8 lane freeway and causing a 50 car chain reaction collision?

You're big of "rules" so how about two here. When you start a thread on a point, stay on point and stop trolling your own thread.
Also, if you ask opinions, accept those offered rather than arguing pointless.


BTW- I'm sure you're aware that you've made no friends on this thread. I'm sure that people have formed their own opinions, and so have I. Your attitude seems more in line with that of a driver who was once cut off by an obnoxious cyclist and is now here to troll.
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Originally Posted by rc5781
I was at the same intersection again today. A clueless road biker accelerated into the crosswalk, but this time the cars didn't stop. Dude almost got hit and stranded himself in the middle of the road.
I'm not sure what you mean by "accelerated into the crosswalk". What kind of intersection is this?
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I'm not sure what you mean by "accelerated into the crosswalk". What kind of intersection is this?

It's a point where a bike path crosses a road. The path becomes a crosswalk and there's a traffic light.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
It's a point where a bike path crosses a road. The path becomes a crosswalk and there's a traffic light.
Ahh. Okay. Some people make bad choices.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Ahh. Okay. Some people make bad choices.

Shocking, right?
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Shocking, right?
The older I get, the less shocked I am by people doing stupid things.
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If you voted "yes" in the poll, you're encouraging this kind of behavior.
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