How rare are chrome lugs?
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They're okay. If there's a magic to tubular tires, it doesn't manifest itself in Conti's cheapest tubs. BUT, I bought a pair of Vittoria Corsa tubs on sale. At some point, I'll ditch the Giros for the Corsas.
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My experience with one pair of Giros (many years old) is their durability. The front refuses to die, and now rolls with a Veloflex 25mm rear. Not supple, but handles like the racier Conti Sprinter tires. IMHO.
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Count me in as another fan of chrome lugs.
I had one if those pale yellow Centurion Semi Pro's with chrome lugs.
It was a beauty.
If you had the inclination you could do what this
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did to his Schwinn Circuit.
https://www.bikeforums.net/11306762-post888.html
I had one if those pale yellow Centurion Semi Pro's with chrome lugs.
It was a beauty.
If you had the inclination you could do what this
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did to his Schwinn Circuit.
https://www.bikeforums.net/11306762-post888.html
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And fork crowns. And anything else.
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This was a 3Rensho-built Specialized Allez that I bought from another BF member. A previous owner had apparently wanted the chrome lug look and so sanded the paint off of the lugs (and a few other places) but had not taken sufficient precautions to protect the then exposed metal. There were some indications that it might have been a wall hanger and not ridden much. I have no idea how long it took to get into this state. I soaked it in EvapoRust to get back to bare metal (disregard the tip of the lug, I sanded that later).
I got lucky on the paint match (and again, took the picture before cleaning up the masking tape and whatnot), but it's still not as good as the rest of the frame which is all original paint.
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Ok so I looked a bit harder and have seen a few now. A Bottecchia with full Campy that would have been great, but they said sold early that day. I saw a Windsor that's too expensive and wrong size. And I see a great Maserati with Campy that would be great, but wrong size. So maybe I'll find one out there.
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The chrome is great though. Nice job there.
So... How rare are chrome lugs in good condition that have been beautifully filed to "fade" into the frame?
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Count me in as another fan of chrome lugs.
I had one if those pale yellow Centurion Semi Pro's with chrome lugs.
It was a beauty.
If you had the inclination you could do what this
bikeforums.net member jeebusaurousrex
did to his Schwinn Circuit.
https://www.bikeforums.net/11306762-post888.html
I had one if those pale yellow Centurion Semi Pro's with chrome lugs.
It was a beauty.
If you had the inclination you could do what this
bikeforums.net member jeebusaurousrex
did to his Schwinn Circuit.
https://www.bikeforums.net/11306762-post888.html
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I mentioned Waterfords with stainless lugs earlier, so I feel obliged to offer a couple of photos of what this can look like.
A fairly conventional stainless lug option looks like this...
but Waterford has been known to produce some really novel stainless lugs! No idea what this cost, but I'm sure it cost quite a bit.
The photos were taken on the 2018 edition of the Hilly Hundred ride in Bloomington, Indiana. If the owner is reading this, please let us know the ballpark of the cost of this option, and whether you are still paying it off.
Steve in Peoria
A fairly conventional stainless lug option looks like this...
but Waterford has been known to produce some really novel stainless lugs! No idea what this cost, but I'm sure it cost quite a bit.
The photos were taken on the 2018 edition of the Hilly Hundred ride in Bloomington, Indiana. If the owner is reading this, please let us know the ballpark of the cost of this option, and whether you are still paying it off.
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In this case, the chrome perfectly accentuates the longest basic lug points (as opposed to fancy, like Hetchins) known to man
Very nice example, too. Thanks for sharing.
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Very nice example, too. Thanks for sharing.
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I had a Campania Professional that I really enjoyed, but ended up being too big for me. It was made in Japan, despite the Italianate name, and was kind of a sleeper. Lots of chrome peeking through — lugs, socks, seat stay caps, down tube, seat tube — since the frame was fully chromed under the paint.
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that one is nice. The one that was for sale was different. It had no mention of model.
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There were quite a few Merckx frames made in the mid-late 80's that had chromed lugs. This is an '84 Pro SLX:
This '83 Davidson custom has very short chromed lugs:
Sr. Pelizzoli made this for me seven years ago. It's fully chromed under the paint, but only the exposed bits were polished before chroming:
This '83 Davidson custom has very short chromed lugs:
Sr. Pelizzoli made this for me seven years ago. It's fully chromed under the paint, but only the exposed bits were polished before chroming:
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Well, the Cinelli Supercorsa still has chrome lugs and copious plating...
It used to be almost every maker had one or more with chrome but no longer.
There's no doubt in my mind the supply is dwindling faster than it is being replenished. If you restrict consideration to only bikes with chrome in good shape, the supply is even lower. As an example, all the photos posted above are of old bikes.
I remember being very disappointed to find out that chrome did not protect against rust and that paint did a better job. I suppose it could be done but it's not economical for a builder - nickel, copper, polish the copper then chrome plate.
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Just because you haven't seen new production doesn't mean new bikes with chrome lugs aren't available...They're available, but only the most discerning classic/vintage customers are still buying them. Most everyone else is buying something made of plastic.
So while your statement that "the supply is dwindling" is true, your statement that "the supply is fixed" is not.
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I mentioned Waterfords with stainless lugs earlier, so I feel obliged to offer a couple of photos of what this can look like.
but Waterford has been known to produce some really novel stainless lugs! No idea what this cost, but I'm sure it cost quite a bit.
Steve in Peoria
but Waterford has been known to produce some really novel stainless lugs! No idea what this cost, but I'm sure it cost quite a bit.
Steve in Peoria
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This one isn't my size, but am I correct to think it's a pretty good deal? Not familiar with Maserati for a bike brand, but the bike looks beautiful and has Campy.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/b...475869086.html
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/b...475869086.html
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A friend of mine still has the Maserati that he bought new in the mid 70's. He says it was made by Fiorelli. I believe that he had it repainted by Doug Fattic. Nice bike.
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I've owned about twenty vintage road bikes/frames over the past decade and four have had chrome lugs, those being a ~1950 Carlton Continental, a ~1960 Olmo Gran Sport, a ~1965 Frejus Tour de France, and a 1979 Centurion Pro Tour, none of which I currently own. I find it more indicative of a frame's quality to have chrome dropouts or stays, which also serves a practical purpose by being less prone to damage caused by axle nuts, quick-release levers, and chain rub.
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The mere existence of a unicorn does not change the basic truth of my statement - no one is making them anymore, as opposed to back when everyone was making them. The pool of product, the supply, was limited when that production dwindled and ceased. I'd bet the influx of new bikes is vastly outweighed by the losses due to corrosion ("Rust never sleeps") and disposals.
If I went to my LBS, would they even have a chromed bike? Does anyone make chromed steel bikes, other than Cinelli and a few other boutique suppliers?
So, along that line,... I haven't been to a local bike shop in a very long time. Maybe at lunch time,...
If I went to my LBS, would they even have a chromed bike? Does anyone make chromed steel bikes, other than Cinelli and a few other boutique suppliers?
So, along that line,... I haven't been to a local bike shop in a very long time. Maybe at lunch time,...
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I took this picture of an Arabesque frame in 2018, and it was labeled as being made in 2017. I haven't checked to see if they are still available.
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