jamesdak 

Anyone holding any? I'm spoiled by all my other Superbe equipped bikes so I want to upgrade the drivetrain on the Peugeot.

The frame is freshly powdercoated so I'm look for parts in excellent shape. Just thought I'd ask her before I start hunting on Ebay.

Thanks!

They'll be going on this.


Current stuff on it works but is nowhere near as precise as my other Superbe setups.

jdawginsc 

Is it a braze-on front? If so, I somehow have extra orphan FDs

jamesdak 

Oh, good point, No braze-on with this bike.

So endless band or other clamp on would be the cleanest although I could also use an adapter if needed. I really like the endless band like on two of the other bikes because it's unobtrusive.

masi61

Friction or Accushift indexed? How many cogs in the rear? Double or triple crank? Cassette or freewheel rear hub? Down tube shift levers or bar end/paddle shifters? A lot of ways to custom configure your SunTour parts group and some mixing/matching with XC Pro/XC 9000/Sprint/Cyclone/Radius, etc can sometimes be just as good as Superbe or Superbe pro and often more versatile. For example, XC Pro rear derailleurs work with triple cranks and also freewheels or cassettes with larger than 26 tooth low cog.

jamesdak 

LOL, obviously I'm more of a shoot from the hip kind of guy. DT friction shifters, capability to cover an 8 speed Shimano/SRAM cassette and sticking with the double crank on there. I'd like to be able to cover a 28t large cog but I know from experience that most RD's cover more than stated but it comes down to each bike. Want to stick with Superbe level items. I'm a Superbe snob.

In my mind if anyone's holding it's up to me to figure out if it meets my needs.

jdawginsc 

Have you had good success with 8 speed cassettes, Superbe RDs and friction shifters? I know that 28t is the upper limit for Superbe, though some have gotten 13-30s to work (not sure how).

There seems to have been a recent price spike on Superbe stuff (and Sprint stuff too).

Some reasonably priced stuff...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/29497621201...Bk9SR5jy7PXdYA
https://www.ebay.com/itm/25524172590...Bk9SR7bT9vXdYA
https://www.ebay.com/itm/28473799529...0v5tdKGNapVKIY
https://www.ebay.com/itm/29468917910...Bk9SR-bZjfbdYA


NOS set... EEKK on the price
https://www.ebay.com/itm/33368706399...Bk9SR7TT9vXdYA

jdawginsc 

After I posted the above, I went through my SunTour stash and lo and behold, I happen to have two of these. Not exactly excellent though.

The NOS set up in the previous post fits more with your bikes' presentation.

Catnap 

jamesdak I've got a full Suntour Superbe group set for sale: https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzznbL



I also have a NOS set of Suntour Superbe derailleurs, brake levers, and crankset that are anodized gold. will be pricey but if you're interested I can send photos and a price list.

jamesdak 

Beautiful setup but that should go to someone trying to build up a full frame. Thanks though.

merziac

That will be so awesome, I would consider getting a new Silca on there too. I think it would elevate it another whole level above where you're already headed.

mhespenheide 

Jim,
If you can relax your standards and deign to use Cyclone, I've got a pair for you. I wouldn't mind continuing to stockpile it, but it's been in the parts bins a long time without getting built up, so...

jdawginsc 

Here is an another option if you went with white for your powdercoat.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15494490723...Bk9SR6zz-c7eYA

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jamesdak 

Thanks all, I am stuck on Superbe though.....

jdawginsc 

Did you the new old stock link I posted above?

jamesdak 

Yeah, I already had that and a few others on my watch list. Just trying here and the other usual places first as I'd rather spread the money around our little "bike nuts" community when I can.

verktyg 

"NOS set... EEKK on the price"
https://www.ebay.com/itm/33368706399...Bk9SR7TT9vXdYA

Did you check out the road rash on the RD? Hardly NOS!!!

One other thing, going back to the Suntour V RDs of the early 70's, most Suntour short cage derailleurs were limited to 24T large rear sprockets. Sometime in the 80's they changed to 26T. From my experience, unlike Campy and Shimano, when Suntour said Maximum sprocket size, that was it!

My 1985 Raleigh SBDU Team Pro was a former team bike raced in the northwest. It had been resprayed by Raleigh USA in 1992 kit. It has a Suntour Superbe Pro gruppo. The original RD was COMPLETELY worn out but still index shifted well. I replaced it with a NOS Superbe Pro RD and it's the smoothest index shifting rig that I own.



I'm using this RD with a 13-26T 7 speed Suntour FW. I tried a 28T but no go.



verktyg

jdawginsc 

I didn't really pay too much attention since I was just looking for Jim, but you are right, not cool.

Interesting. I could've sworn someone posted that they were able to get 28 or 30 T out of it. Maybe with half step gearing...but if it won't open up wide enough it would likely hit the largest cog, right? So wrap wouldn't be the issue. I haven't used the indexed version though.

Are you using an accushift freewheel with it?

jdawginsc 

Fair enough. Let me know if you want the "non-excellent" front derailleur up there (I joke...it looks a bit rough for your needs)

jamesdak 

In fairness the seller did state it was installed on a bike, mechanic knocked it over and damaged it so the parts were removed.

jamesdak 

I'm running a SRAM 11-30 8 speed on my Raleight Team USA with a short cage Superbe RD. The B screw is short on that (looks broken off) but with it set to it's longest position it's working just fine on this bike. If I remember correctly that RD is rated at 26T max.

The 39-11 doesn't work but 52-30 does.

jdawginsc 

It's an odd ad copy. Mentions the blemish, but then mentions NOS again. Oh well.

Far and away more expensive than I would pay (even if all boxed NIB).

I am actually amazed at the Superbe price spike that happened over the last 6 months since I bought a few items.

Have you ever ridden with Sprint stuff?

Unca_Sam

verktyg already covered this model seems to max out at 26t, but I have this one with no foreseeable use. It came to me with a pair of command shifters I have a plan for.
it would be easy to persuade me to part with it if it suits your needs.

Suntour Superbe Pro RD, rash on bottom of rear pivot, anodizing worn at the top.

Some wear at the upper pivot

Suntour at the time this RD was made was promoting their compact drivetrain, MicroDrive. The idea is that you save weight by shrinking the chainrings and the cogs so that the ratios are the same, but the system as a whole is smaller and lighter.
I have a 7 speed accushift microdrive cassette sitting with a MD XC Comp hub to resell one day, but if you're going to index with accushift and you have the hubs, maybe you don't miss a gear?

jamesdak 

Yeah I'm surprised too by the prices I'm seeing. About a year ago I had someone over on Paceline give me Superbe RD/FD/Brakes/Levers/shifters. He offered them for free over there and no one spoke up for about a week before I replied. Put them on my Team USA bike. Makes me appreciate his kind gesture even more.

I've been pricing out the parts and the price for the scraped NOS stuff doesn't seem all that bad compared to getting the stuff piece by piece.

I have had and used all sorts of Suntour parts. Can't complain about any of them that I had but the Superbe parts just feel better to me from the minute i first fondle the DT shifter....

I've got a couple of local bikes I may go look at that have the parts I need. Of course....that's how I wound up with the Bianchi I'm now refurbishing instead of parting out.

jdawginsc 

Sprint is exceptional. Plus a little different look from Superbe, of which I am a fan of...but only in friction. I have never used index Superbe/Sprint/Cyclone.

plonz 

My inventory list shows I have 3 RDs, 2 FDs and 3 shifters, all Superbe. Finding time to dig them up is a challenge. Can't leave a BF member hanging though so I'll do my best to put hands on them this weekend.