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Old 02-22-21, 05:48 PM
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Enough for a 4th hand tool to work without pulling the end cap off. And yes, I use it on derailleur as well as brake cables.

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I keep it short. 1 triangle for crap, think BSOs. 2 triangles for good, regular shop work. 3 triangles is no expense spared. If it has 3 and it needs adjusting, I messed up last time.
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Originally Posted by gugie
Enough for a 4th hand tool to work without pulling the end cap off. And yes, I use it on derailleur as well as brake cables.

This is the correct answer, though the pictured cable is too long
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Originally Posted by jiangshi
This is the correct answer, though the pictured cable is too long
Yep, I just grabbed that one off the internet. Just long enough for a 4th hand tool, I should say.
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I use shrink tubing. I like it because it can be removed without snipping the wire.


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As long as you grabbed it off the internet, I'll pile on and say that cable cap is WAY too large, looks like a 1.8mm on a 1.2mm cable.

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Yep, I just grabbed that one off the internet. Just long enough for a 4th hand tool, I should say.
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@gugie - Does that 4th hand work well for tightening tie straps?
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Sometimes I use caps. Other times I put a drop of super glue on the end. I hold the cut end up, then drip a drop of super glue into the end of the cable so it penetrates into the cable strands. Once it dries, you can sand it down so it will glide through the cable lining. I went a little extra with this one, and also added matching paint on top of the glued end.



Sometimes I'll purposefully cut the end so it aligns with the bottom of the caliper below the brake pad. When pulling the cable tight, I grab the cable with needle-nose pliers and press the flat pivot part of the pliers against the bottom of the caliper, so it acts like a fulcrum. Sometimes I'll use a rag or piece of paper towel in between. This makes it easy to pull the cable tight in a controlled way while I tighten the bolt.
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As long as you grabbed it off the internet, I'll pile on and say that cable cap is WAY too large, looks like a 1.8mm on a 1.2mm cable.
Tough crowd.
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@gugie - Does that 4th hand work well for tightening tie straps?
But then you'd need a 5th hand to loosen, no?
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Tough crowd.

But then you'd need a 5th hand to loosen, no?
I'm bypassing 5H altogether and going straight to 6H!
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Originally Posted by gaucho777
Sometimes I use caps. Other times I put a drop of super glue on the end. I hold the cut end up, then drip a drop of super glue into the end of the cable so it penetrates into the cable strands. Once it dries, you can sand it down so it will glide through the cable lining. I went a little extra with this one, and also added matching paint on top of the glued end.



Sometimes I'll purposefully cut the end so it aligns with the bottom of the caliper below the brake pad. When pulling the cable tight, I grab the cable with needle-nose pliers and press the flat pivot part of the pliers against the bottom of the caliper, so it acts like a fulcrum. Sometimes I'll use a rag or piece of paper towel in between. This makes it easy to pull the cable tight in a controlled way while I tighten the bolt.
I like how you continued your paint theme for your cable tip. Well done.
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Get Sram Red eTap hydro.... no cables. Problem solved.
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Get Sram Red eTap hydro.... no cables. Problem solved.
If I am not mistaken, you are referring to a disk brake. This is the C&V forum. We don't know what that is. We only know what is older than 20-25 years.
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Originally Posted by SJX426
If I am not mistaken, you are referring to a disk brake. This is the C&V forum. We don't know what that is. We only know what is older than 20-25 years.
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"If any brake is feeling the love these days, it’s the disc brake. Believe it or not, people have dabbled with discs brakes on bicycles since at least 1950. Schwinn Manta-Rays had cable-actuated versions in 1971. In the mid-1970′s, Shimano had a line of hydraulic brakes that ended up on utility bikes of the era. "

Mid-70s vintage Shimano hydraulic disc brakes
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"If any brake is feeling the love these days, it’s the disc brake...
Not to get too off-topic, but Chris Froome is not feeling the love:
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/02/chri...t-disc-brakes/
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Originally Posted by gaucho777
Not to get too off-topic, but Chris Froome is not feeling the love:
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/02/chri...t-disc-brakes/
You did.
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I bought some small diameter heat shrink tube because IT'S SO MUCH LIGHTER THAN THE ALUMINUM CAPS!!! Seriously, I bought it at a time I ran out of the end caps and a foot has lasted me years. I prefer to use the caps because I don't have the heat gun readily at hand where I work on the bikes. But I do use the shrink tube from time to time because it does look kind of cool, and before I bought a bag of about 100.

Oh, and the extra length - I just leave the correct amount.
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Brakes: aligned with the end of the caliper arms.
RD: aligned with the end of the derailleur body.
FD: aligned with...actually just long enough to not interfere with the crank arm.

I was once told they should be long enough to accommodate a third hand tool; no more, no less. But I don’t use/have one, so I made my own rules.
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@GlennR - Here is my come back: This is my way of extracting obscure information out of this very knowledgeable group>!"

I do have a disk on the Rock Hopper using the Marzocchi SL fork, Avid 7 that works exceptionally well. Just not hydraulic.
RockHopper_ Sprung_2012_018 on Flickr

Before anyone says the geometry is all screwed up, It is an air fork adjusted to the right height with my weight added.
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Originally Posted by SJX426
@GlennR - Here is my come back: This is my way of extracting obscure information out of this very knowledgeable group>!"
To get back to the topic... I leave as little as possible since leaving more serves no purpose to me. I like the cleaner look and if the came needs to come off, they're cheap enough to just put a new one on.
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