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Old 07-09-21, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by clemsongirl View Post
I prefer healthier food and drinks than the ones on that chart..with the exception of Badoit which i’ve had with dinner most of my life.



I’d say it’s disturbing that we have so many who only listen to media, critics and a politicization that relies on disinformation that plays on fear, insecurities, anger, resentment, and/or especially hatred…..but then i prefer emotionally positive, well balanced and intelligent friends, co-workers and others that i socialize/work with….and especially the community/state i choose to live in…..all of which i happily do have and enjoy.
Are you talking about the state that was terrified to let children on playgrounds?
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Are you talking about the state that was terrified to let children on playgrounds?
Hey, when I grew up, playgrounds were dirt and gravel, slides were hot metal, and the "toys" were made of metal bars that you could climb and fall several feet from... If you survived you could grow up and go to war... playgrounds prepared you for that.
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If we want to get to a big investment company their money is so spread out that there's too much to boycot for any effect.

So it's not good news for consumer power.
If you looked into it you’d see there are some very good examples of….if a boycott or divesting reflects a positive movement it can definitely have an effect on the engaging in negative behavior, especially the sourcing of material, and a companies need to cultivate a consumer positive brand identity.



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Are you talking about the state that was terrified to let children on playgrounds?


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i prefer emotionally positive, well balanced and intelligent friends, co-workers and others that i socialize/work with….


we both know that doesn’t describe you ....and since you have the same attitude as the others on my 'ignore' i do hope you now enjoy being with them!!
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Hey, when I grew up, playgrounds were dirt and gravel, slides were hot metal, and the "toys" were made of metal bars that you could climb and fall several feet from... If you survived you could grow up and go to war... playgrounds prepared you for that.
Yup it was a badge of honor to get all bloody on the playground Whoever got the most monkey blood applied was the man or in some cases the woman was the hero. That monkey blood would burn lol. Injuries were common and expected it was a cruel jungle out there but damn it was fun. Getting your butt kicked by a girl was common because at that stage the girls could compete with the boys in playground combat games.

The other day this lady asked me if I remembered her? . I said like how could I forget you use to beat the hell out the boys. She started she now has 4 grown sons now and she being the only girl in her family she had to deal with her older brothers. I mean she beat the daylights out of us.

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Hey, when I grew up
We saw an even bigger need for child community parks with their outdoor exercise in dense urban areas during covid last year. Thankfully we have many well designed ones and with proper precautionary measures they were a blessing for many children and parents!!
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There are a lot of small deluxe carbon mountain bike brands right now and I’m genuinely curious which VC owns what. I’m guessing there’s a lot fewer owners than brands, especially since they mostly seem to have stopped suing each other over subtle differences in their rear suspension linkages, and their websites are all the same. But it’s hard to tell. Their websites all just say “we are a bunch of mountain bikers here in CO/Santa Cruz /the Alps who make mountain bikes for mountain bikers.” Maybe to the people who have subscriptions to the bike business magazine it’s old news. We get a little of the business news here but most of it is “enthusiast press” advertising.
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Yeti sued Arctic for cloning their ice chests. A buddy of mine bought an Arctic for half the price of a Yeti and we compared the two and they were exactly the same so I got hosed again! They settled by Arctic making the handles slightly different lol. Still the same cooler. Ordering a Coke at KFC, Taco Bell or Pizza Hut and they always replied No Coke, Pepsi? I don’t FRIKIN care it tastes the same! I guess Pepsi own those franchises back then. I know healthy food choices
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Originally Posted by clemsongirl View Post
We saw an even bigger need for child community parks with their outdoor exercise in dense urban areas during covid last year. Thankfully we have many well designed ones and with proper precautionary measures they were a blessing for many children and parents!!
I still see a need for parks and green space in dense urban areas. To my mind, there should be a park or green area within short walking distance of every urban home. Besides the mental relief such parks provide, there is also the reduction of the urban heat island by such green spaces.
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If you really want to see brand consolidation then investigate who-owns-what in the worldwide automotive industry. China bought Volvo a few years ago, Fiat-Chrysler is partnered with Peugot (and maybe Renault?) and also owns Lambourgini and Maserati, G.M. sold off Opel and Vauxhaull (do they still own Australia's Holden?), V.W. owns Porsche, Skoda, and who knows what else (they've always had Audi, their luxury brand), Tata Motors (India) owns Rover/Landrover and Jaguar, BMW owns Rolls Royce (and Bentley?), and Cooper (the 'Mini'), and who knows what else is merging/divesting somewhere in the auto world. Crazy!
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Originally Posted by clemsongirl View Post
If you looked into it you’d see there are some very good examples of….if a boycott or divesting reflects a positive movement it can definitely have an effect on the engaging in negative behavior, especially the sourcing of material, and a companies need to cultivate a consumer positive brand identity.











we both know that doesn’t describe you ....and since you have the same attitude as the others on my 'ignore' i do hope you now enjoy being with them!!
Ha! That’s the open mindedness I’ve come to know and love.

I’ll resume tearing caution tape from playgrounds so kids can play.
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I don’t ignore anybody I love to hear what everybody has to say. Even if I don’t agree I don’t care. Believe me attend a Texas redneck beer party and listen to the spew and you will develop a thick hide. In Hondo it will be,Redneck/Hispanic party and or Country Music / Hard Rock Heavy Metal. We are all Catholics and drunk seriously all races live here and we all get along and I’m proud of that. S Texas is a good example on how to coexist and behave and learn from each other. I have enough soap to build a mountain lol.
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Originally Posted by Stadjer View Post
for example BlackRock
Read an interesting article recently, which was referenced by another;

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ersity-in-2021

Advertising sells more than product sometimes. People never give a thought to why the colour cerulean blue is "in" all of a sudden let alone who decided upon it's popularity in advance.

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I don’t ignore anybody I love to hear what everybody has to say.
When i see someone on the net who has a hard time contributing in a positive way, are closed to complexities and possibilities that take even a little brain work and especially can’t seem to think outside of a binary mode.... i’ll ignore them after seeing that in too many of their posts. This site has an ignore function for a good reason….
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Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
Yeti sued Arctic for cloning their ice chests. A buddy of mine bought an Arctic for half the price of a Yeti and we compared the two and they were exactly the same so I got hosed again! They settled by Arctic making the handles slightly different lol. Still the same cooler. Ordering a Coke at KFC, Taco Bell or Pizza Hut and they always replied No Coke, Pepsi? I don’t FRIKIN care it tastes the same! I guess Pepsi own those franchises back then. I know healthy food choices
I think a lot of everyday products have had any relevant patents long expired. So the changes made wouldn’t be highly related to function.

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Probably more concerning is that behind these corporations there's much bigger concentration of money that is spread out over all these corporations and brands. I suspect when they want power that money operates as one or as a few, but when we want to get to them it's too diffuse. If we the citizens/consumers decide that for example BlackRock or Quaker is doing something very bad and should be punished, how do we figure out what to boycot? If we boycot Quaker the shareholders will get their money from another cereal brand, or even through another holding company. If we want to get to a big investment company their money is so spread out that there's too much to boycot for any effect.

So it's not good news for consumer power.
I wouldn’t be surprised if mortgage moratorium end date somehow coincides with Blackrock getting balance sheet together to buy more houses.

Reminds me of Apollo Education losing ability to get student aid. Stock tanks. Marty Nesbitt buys. Apollo Education allowed to get student aid. Instant multi billion windfall with no value add to society or students.

History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.
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Originally Posted by prairiepedaler View Post
Read an interesting article recently, which was referenced by another;

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ersity-in-2021

Advertising sells more than product sometimes. People never give a thought to why the colour cerulean blue is "in" all of a sudden let alone who decided upon it's popularity in advance.
I'd like to react to that.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if mortgage moratorium end date somehow coincides with Blackrock getting balance sheet together to buy more houses.

Reminds me of Apollo Education losing ability to get student aid. Stock tanks. Marty Nesbitt buys. Apollo Education allowed to get student aid. Instant multi billion windfall with no value add to society or students.

History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.
Something to say about that too. But LAJ makes a fair point.

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Please and thank you.
Anyone else interested in a spin off topic in P&R?
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Yup it was a badge of honor to get all bloody on the playground Whoever got the most monkey blood applied was the man or in some cases the woman was the hero. That monkey blood would burn lol. Injuries were common and expected it was a cruel jungle out there but damn it was fun. Getting your butt kicked by a girl was common because at that stage the girls could compete with the boys in playground combat games.

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That is what she did to us! That might even be her! It sure looks like her. Today she is a nice lady but there is no doubt she can still whoop my butt lol. I carried her groceries to her SUV just in case she decided I needed a playground style butt whoopin. I wasn’t going to chance it.
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Thank you for posting.
Seems like a good article. Read later.
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Read it. Good article.
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Agree, not news, and I am pleased to see that we virtually never buy the garbage those brands sell. I did own some Mondelez until a few years ago until we dumped it for sustainability, governance, and ethics reasons.
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Yeti sued Arctic for cloning their ice chests. A buddy of mine bought an Arctic for half the price of a Yeti and we compared the two and they were exactly the same so I got hosed again! They settled by Arctic making the handles slightly different lol. Still the same cooler. Ordering a Coke at KFC, Taco Bell or Pizza Hut and they always replied No Coke, Pepsi? I don’t FRIKIN care it tastes the same! I guess Pepsi own those franchises back then. I know healthy food choices
No way man, Pepsi is gross and way too sweet, Coke is much better. I heard there's a litmus test, a little paper strip with some chemical on it, if you can taste it or not you prefer Coke vs Pepsi or the other way around.

I thought it was interesting to see how much 'food' Pepsico owns, but Coke only drinks. Also the chart leaves out restaurant chains, doesn't Pepsico own KFC/Taco Bell/Pizza Hut?
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I think Pepsi sold their portion of Yum! brands a while back.
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