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Old 04-05-16, 01:26 PM
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Looking for Raw Steel Frame Steel

Guys, I am looking for a raw steel frame like this one Cinelli MASH Work Frameset 2016

any suggestions? Thanks.
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If you really wanted raw, you would go with non-stainless, brass brazed, especially lugless. Then clear coat it. That would be a fine look with red decals.
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Why not buy that one?
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Ask the guys in the Single Speed forum. Road or Track, either way, they will know.
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Factory5 has a nice looking raw track frame. Don't know what the build plan is, but you might be limited with the track dropout width.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
If you really wanted raw, you would go with non-stainless, brass brazed, especially lugless. Then clear coat it. That would be a fine look with red decals.
It's quite hard to make clear coat stick to a raw steel frame though. Maybe thick coats of clear plastidip may work. Plastidip isn't as durable as normal paint though.
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Rikulau out of Taiwan makes some cool frames. The one below is from Reynolds 931 tubing. I'm sure there are some other places that have nice frames but the names escape me right now. Maybe Traitor makes one too?

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It's quite hard to make clear coat stick to a raw steel frame though. Maybe thick coats of clear plastidip may work. Plastidip isn't as durable as normal paint though.
I've heard that, but stainless hardly shows a raw finish. What choice is there. And honestly, I don't see why pigment is needed to get adhesion.
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Originally Posted by taxlord
Guys, I am looking for a raw steel frame like this one Cinelli MASH Work Frameset 2016

any suggestions? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by taxlord
Guys, I am looking for a raw steel frame like this one Cinelli MASH Work Frameset 2016

any suggestions? Thanks.
You can actually just strip the paint off of any steel frame (Kilo TT is a good choice if you want a track frame) then clearcoat it with a clear primer, then another clear coat of real paint over it.

https://www.grainger.com/product/RUS...y-Primer-6PEU5

Or clear powdercoat.

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I failed to mention, that I am looking for a road frame. Not track frame. Am just in love with the raw look and the welds on this one.
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Originally Posted by rmfnla
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I am far from a hipster. Cheers.
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I actually dig the look too...will be interested in a road version if you find one.
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The cinelli XCR is raw steel, but it costs $4k. For that you might as well go custom, mosaic and firefly make my favorite raw frames.
Twin six makes raw TI road, rando, and cx framesets: https://www.twinsix.com/collections/bikes-bits
Otherwise, I think bikesdirect has a few raw TI frames, but I don't think you can buy just the frameset. Your best bet is probably to get a frame off craigslist or ebay and strip it yourself.
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Originally Posted by taxlord
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any suggestions? Thanks.
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What's the budget? If you have enough funds, have your builder of choice make you a custom frame and not paint it.

If you can't afford the custom frame, then buy a steel frame and strip the paint.

For both options you can either clear coat it as suggested above. Or have a truly raw finish. If you don't clear coat it you'll see surface oxidation fairly quick and the frame will likely succumb to corrosion faster than a painted one.
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Look up VELO+ In Kansas City, he makes custom steel frames to which you are seeking.
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Not worried about rust on a raw frame?
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You can get a clear powder coat. I'm not sure how to get a brushed finish if sand blasting though. Perhaps first sand blast it, then sand it while protecting it from contaminants.

As far as in the RAW.

Brompton also makes a nice raw steel frame. Of course it is a bit different bike than you're looking at.
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Originally Posted by kreative
Not worried about rust on a raw frame?
Not if clear painted or powder coated. And certainly not if stainless steel. But the stainless doesn't look very raw.
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Yasujiro makes one, it's called the Nudity Road, rim or disc version
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Find a good steel road frame you like and take it to a sandblaster. They'll remove the paint for you and you wont have to worry with all the messy, harmful, and potentially hazardous chemicals that go into stripping paint off a frame. Some could offer a clear powdercoat on the premises or else you'll have to act quickly as pointed out earlier; the raw metal will oxidize. Even finger prints could affect the quality of the finished raw look. Some people prefer the oxidized look though so YYMV depending on your tastes and preferences. Raw frame with a metallic clear coat might be pretty rad.
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Looking for Raw Steel Frame Steel

The overwhelming majority of steel frames are painted for a reason.

Raw is truly an example of form over function.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
I've heard that, but stainless hardly shows a raw finish. What choice is there. And honestly, I don't see why pigment is needed to get adhesion.
it’s the primer that is applied first to the frame which is what makes the paint adhere better, including clear coats
The pigment has little to do with it.
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