BikeMike27

Hello,

I am looking for a deep 700 diameter rear wheel with a deep rim and can't seem to find one anywhere. I have Ultra Sport III tires and they refused to go on any kind of shallow rim whatsoever. My old rims were 10mm deep and I could get the Ultra Sports on without tire levers or any trouble. Does anyone have any suggestions for what rim I might find a deep rim?

Thanks.

shelbyfv

Why not try some different tires?

ThermionicScott 

I'll hazard a guess that your old rims were single-walled, and whatever you have now are double-walled. Conti Ultra Sports can work on double-walled rims, it just takes more finesse. Use thin rim tape to make it a little easier.

canklecat

Conti Ultra Sport tires are notoriously tight and difficult to mount without a bead jack. A couple of years ago I got a Kool Stop bead jack just for mounting the Ultra Sport 2 tires. It's possible to mount them with a plastic tire lever but there's a risk of nicking the tube. Been there, done that, cussed a lot.

After getting the bead jack I had no problems mounting the US2 in 700x23 and x25 on two different bikes with old school narrow, low profile rims and more recent aero rims.

While the Ultra Sports were very good values -- durable, grippy, reasonably puncture resistant -- I finally switched to Continental GP Classics and Soma Supple Vitesse, both of which I can mount without a bead jack. I still use the Conti Ultra Sport 2 tires on the indoor trainer, and occasionally on outdoor rides, although I try to remember to pack the bead jack in case of a puncture.

However a general guideline for most tire/rim fit is, with cloth rim tape which tends to be thick, use a rim tape just wide enough to cover the spoke holes, but not so wide that it comes up the inner sides of the rims. If the cloth rim tape covers the entire inside of the rim's U-shaped trough, it'll cause difficulty mounting with some tire beads. Often there will be one part of the tire that refuses to seat without a bulge or hop.

With thin rim tape or strips -- cheap rubber band strips, Schwalbe or similar stiffer flexible plastic strips, tubeless tape or even Gorilla tape -- it's less critical if the rim strip or tape covers part of the inner sides of the rim.

BikeMike27

Ok, thanks! I'll check that out. Or maybe look for single walled rims. I loved the old rims I had. I could get the tires on without tire levers.

BikeMike27

Ok, thanks! Yeah, I might just switch tires; these things are a complete bear on every rim I've tried except for the ones I had. And thank you for the advice. I'll try the tape and/or bead jack and then consider getting different tires next time.

popeye

If you decide to carry a bead jack, you can cut the handle off to fit in a saddle bag. I hate these new shallow TL ready rims for the same reason.

CliffordK

If you are looking for easy to mount rims (you are asking for rims, not wheels, right?)

Then you need to look for classic style rims. Avoid the "Tubeless Ready" rims.

I copied this from Velocity a while ago:



The tubeless ready rims look similar, but are notoriously hard to mount. Nonetheless, you have to make sure you push the bead into the center channel.

Also consider your rim tape. While I used to like the Velox cloth tape, but I've moved to various types of plastic rim tape which tends to be thinner and slicker.