Masking Lugs and Panels...
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Masking Lugs and Panels...
In a recent thread, regarding choice of paint pens for lining lugs and stuff, I asked how people manage to get panels straight and square when masking. One on our fellow members suggested a product called Frisket Film...
Needless to say, I Googled it and think it might be a vast improvement over my present way of masking for paint work. With that in mind...
I intend to document the process and share it here, for those who are interested. I would hope that those of you, who have experience with masking lugs and panels, chime in with things that you have learned, procedures you follow and products you use, to help the rest of us do a good job and avoid mistakes. Mistakes which can be costly, time consuming and frustrating.
And why this interest? Because I want to do a really good job of repainting my just arrived Rabineick 120d, which I would not include a picture of it were not raining cats and dogs right now. And, like all parts of any project I take on, I want to do the paint work myself, but I will fudge by buying the Rabeneick decal set from Gus Solman.
Needless to say, I Googled it and think it might be a vast improvement over my present way of masking for paint work. With that in mind...
I intend to document the process and share it here, for those who are interested. I would hope that those of you, who have experience with masking lugs and panels, chime in with things that you have learned, procedures you follow and products you use, to help the rest of us do a good job and avoid mistakes. Mistakes which can be costly, time consuming and frustrating.
And why this interest? Because I want to do a really good job of repainting my just arrived Rabineick 120d, which I would not include a picture of it were not raining cats and dogs right now. And, like all parts of any project I take on, I want to do the paint work myself, but I will fudge by buying the Rabeneick decal set from Gus Solman.
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Randy, hope it works out for you! Interested to see your results.
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You might want to make a test area first, prepped/painted the way the frame will be. Depending on the paint/film it might want to wrinkle the paper(it can shrink when drying) making the second coat not so nice. The "old days" we made or own frisket paper two coats of 50/50 diluted rubber cement and bestine thinner. (Art studio) some of the new 3m tapes are awesome! Thin tape can be persuaded to do curves nicely. And can be used as a spacer or the vertical edge or a lug. Wide tape doesn't like curves great to wrap a tube. And with a light touch a number 11 exacting blade can be you friend! I've never really like the chiseled 16 for masking (personal pref.) can't wait to see how it turns out!
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Me too, subscribed.KB
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This is the Rabeneick and it finally arrived yesterday. Took a bit of time to piece it together with what I happen to have tucked away. Sadly, the brake calipers need to have a longer reach, so can't test ride it today...
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Frisket works well, but so does better masking tape intended for models and pinstriping. Scotch tape also works.
Another trick: Apply clear coat first after masking. It seals the edges.
If you burnish the edge of conventional crepe type masking tape, it helps too.
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Test on Scrap!
Another trick: Apply clear coat first after masking. It seals the edges.
If you burnish the edge of conventional crepe type masking tape, it helps too.
Test on Scrap!
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Frisket paper (purposely) has a pretty low tack. There is also a product called Liquid frisket, which you paint on with a small brush, allow to dry, and then it's all set to mask off irregular areas. Once painting is done, you simply rub the dry frisket off - it's a bit like dried rubber cement. I could be wrong, but I think a local powdercoater told me they used it for masking lugs. (I use it for painting watercolors.)
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Same here, Azorch. Windsor & Newton make a liquid frisket masking fluid, and Grumbacher may still too though I haven't seen that in a while. Great secret paint masking tip.
For this project though I don't think I'd use frisket paper. Made for flat art work, etc.
Tamiya tapes, available at hobby shops for model makers in various widths, makes great tape for fine masking.
For this project though I don't think I'd use frisket paper. Made for flat art work, etc.
Tamiya tapes, available at hobby shops for model makers in various widths, makes great tape for fine masking.
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Tamiya also now make "curved" tape which may be of interest. Clearly the tape is not actually curved, but formulated such that it can be stretched around curves and still provide a clean edge.
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OK subscribing with interest of masking a Nervex lug or other complex curved lug.
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Frisket film will work okay on the tubes, but if you're going to apply Frisket to the lug itself it won't conform to the curves very well. You're better off using 3M's 233xx line of tape. It's a crepe-paper tape that conforms and holds, and the adhesive is solvent proof, so no lifting! I also use a popsicle stick (the rounded ends do nicely) to push the tape up against the shorelines to get them to stick nicely. Then, a steady hand and about 3 x-acto blades per lug!
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Subscribed, after becoming temporarily cross eyed from masking the lugs on a Raleigh International, back in '80. Thanks for starting this topic Randy, and the others contributing.
You guys are way out ahead of my level of skills or experience, but I have had some good results with Tamiya liquid masking, from a local hobby shop. However it needs a boundary on tubing unless you can freehand perfectly straight lines. It does work well on lugs for me.
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You guys are way out ahead of my level of skills or experience, but I have had some good results with Tamiya liquid masking, from a local hobby shop. However it needs a boundary on tubing unless you can freehand perfectly straight lines. It does work well on lugs for me.
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Frisket paper (purposely) has a pretty low tack. There is also a product called Liquid frisket, which you paint on with a small brush, allow to dry, and then it's all set to mask off irregular areas. Once painting is done, you simply rub the dry frisket off - it's a bit like dried rubber cement. I could be wrong, but I think a local powdercoater told me they used it for masking lugs. (I use it for painting watercolors.)
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