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Old 09-27-22, 02:32 AM
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Colnago Master

Hi you guys,

I inherited a Colnago Master and would like to know what I can expect to get for it if sold. See pictures below:
Thanks a ton!
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This is the wrong forum to ask that question but it is a very nice mid 80's Master frame with some wonderful milled and pantographed features. As a rough guess I would think it would be in the $3000 region. It's a nice and, in my case, desirable bike. The Masters of that era were wonderful rides for the average built rider. The pedals are a bit of a let down but they are okay for turning the cranks over for now. I like it.
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This is the wrong forum to ask that question but it is a very nice mid 80's Master frame with some wonderful milled and pantographed features. As a rough guess I would think it would be in the $3000 region. It's a nice and, in my case, desirable bike. The Masters of that era were wonderful rides for the average built rider. The pedals are a bit of a let down but they are okay for turning the cranks over for now. I like it.
Ah sorry for posting it in the wrong forum - would you mind pointing me in the right direction (or moving the thread over?).
The pedals are just some random ones i threw on to give it a testride. There were none on the bike initially
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I don't know how to move a thread but the moderators will move it when they find it. This is the thread I always use but I think there is a thread that deals with estimations. Unfortunately I can't thing of the thread's title. It's not a big problem and often people have their threads moved and I think you are notified as to where it has been moved to.

I may be completely wrong in this advice as I've never thought of selling a bike - and, I suppose, you are just making an inquiry.

It is a very desirable bike and I may be a bit out in my estimation too. It's just a fair price I think your bike is worth. The milled and pantographed components are the big unknown features price wise. Someone, somewhere may be really hanging out for a bike just like yours. I'm in Australia, and our bike values always seem very similar and if it was in Australia I guess I would really want to have a close look at it. I couldn't help myself. Have you ever thought of keeping it? It is a very desirable bike for many classic bike tragic's like me. Bikes are fun to ride, haha, as you no doubt know. Perhaps it's not your size?

Anyway, best wishes and good luck.
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Thank you very much for your kind and elaborate response. It makes me hopful to be able to sell it for a decent price.

I was indeed just making an inquiry to get a rough estimation of it's worth, and was not trying to sell it here.

I do like the bike, but it's a tad too small for me (while I still have ridden it for some kms). Unfortunately, while i would like for you to see the bike in person, I am not in Australia. I also do have a number of other bikes (weird how they quickly accumulate) I ride regularly and this one is not one of them. So instead of having it sit in the cellar, someone else might get a chance to have their fun with it.
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Thanks - should i just repost there, or ask a mod to move the thread?
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The moderators should move it over as soon as they spot it. You could post over there on your own but you may end up with double posts. Nice bike , by the way! Is it your size?
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Thanks - should i just repost there, or ask a mod to move the thread?
I think you can click the little red button below your avatar in the original post and ask for it to be moved to appraisals.
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Take a couple of photos of the entire bike up against a white wall or garage door
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Looks to be in excellent condition.
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Thank you very much.

Here are some (moderately better) photos. Nevermind the pedals. The bike is a tad to small for me (while i can still ride it) and the right bar plug is missing.



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I'm not sure if the photos were taken during a check of the seatpost, but - just in case: For the safety of anyone who tries to sit on that bike and the safety of the seat lug as well, please, please, please bring the seatpost down to the "Max" limit line.

Make sure to grease the post and the inside of the frame before doing so. Aluminum and steel react otherwise and bond themselves together.

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Wow, that is a ton of pantos. Mismatched wheelset will affect value, but that's a beauty.
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Wow, that is a ton of pantos. Mismatched wheelset will affect value, but that's a beauty.
I do have a different matching wheelset. I just used this one, since the original tubs didnt hold air anymore
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Pretty bike, but definitely too small for you (or in need of a longer seatpost) if you ride it like that. Make sure the seatpost is safe before riding further or you'll risk ruining all the value (or getting injured).
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Thanks for your concern, I barely ever ride it and likely wont, given all the cautionary tales
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Whew, looking at E-Bay, prices on the Masters seem to have jumped quite a bit. But that doesn't mean they'll move quickly at the highest asking price. And, the "Buy-It-Now" on E-Bay can just be wish lists.

I'm not a big fan of the decal work on that era of Master. But, that looks to be in at least reasonable condition.

@Gary Fountain suggested around $3000. Is that USD or AUD?

I'd normally think maybe $1500, but looking at recent ads, perhaps push that up to $2000 or so.
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Whew, looking at E-Bay, prices on the Masters seem to have jumped quite a bit. But that doesn't mean they'll move quickly at the highest asking price. And, the "Buy-It-Now" on E-Bay can just be wish lists.

I'm not a big fan of the decal work on that era of Master. But, that looks to be in at least reasonable condition.

@Gary Fountain suggested around $3000. Is that USD or AUD?

I'd normally think maybe $1500, but looking at recent ads, perhaps push that up to $2000 or so.
Hi CliffordK, I always think in AUD but I have found that USD and AUD match up reasonably closely when it comes to bikes - even though the AUD is worth much less than the US dollar. That said, the same bike offered for sale in the US of A and in Australia would see a cheaper US price but still close.

I still think it would be worth closer to $3000 as this era pantographed bits and pieces are a bit rare and the frame is in pretty good condition. $2000 would be a fantastic price to pay for this bike but I would aim a bit higher if I were selling it. The frame is painted in that very desirable Colnago pattern and the saddle, often seen with this paint scheme, is also extremely desirable and looks to have a bit of life left in it yet. It's a bike that only needs a little love and sorting out. I'd pay a little bit more to find all these desirable features in the one package. This bike was definitely someone's pride and joy and it will be a new owners pride and joy. It won't be a museum piece but it will be a practical classic.

If you saw this bike resting up against a wall at a cafe, etc., you would have to stop and do a bit of drooling.

Too bad it is way too small for me and I too think the saddle HAS to be dropped for safety and aesthetics. I'd also drop the stem a bit.

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Hi CliffordK, I always think in AUD but I have found that USD and AUD match up reasonably closely when it comes to bikes - even though the AUD is worth much less than the US dollar. That said, the same bike offered for sale in the US of A and in Australia would see a cheaper US price but still close.

I still think it would be worth closer to $3000 as this era pantographed bits and pieces are a bit rare and the frame is in pretty good condition. $2000 would be a fantastic price to pay for this bike but I would aim a bit higher if I were selling it. The frame is painted in that very desirable Colnago pattern and the saddle, often seen with this paint scheme, is also extremely desirable and looks to have a bit of life left in it yet. It's a bike that only needs a little love and sorting out. I'd pay a little bit more to find all these desirable features in the one package. This bike was definitely someone's pride and joy and it will be a new owners pride and joy. It won't be a museum piece but it will be a practical classic.

If you saw this bike resting up against a wall at a cafe, etc., you would have to stop and do a bit of drooling.

Too bad it is way too small for me and I too think the saddle HAS to be dropped for safety and aesthetics. I'd also drop the stem a bit.
Thanks again for clarifying - I'll happily sell it for a bit over 2k USD/EUR (excl. shipping). Hopefully I find some interested buyers. Our market is quite small
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Nope, i am in the EU. Still the local marketplace (similar to CL in the US) feels very small.
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Thanks for your concern, I barely ever ride it and likely wont, given all the cautionary tales
You should never have ridden it with the seatpost that high. I bet there are only a few millimeters still in the frame.
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You should never have ridden it with the seatpost that high. I bet there are only a few millimeters still in the frame.
I am fairly certain, there are a good few centimeters still in the frame - so it wasnt too concerning
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I am fairly certain, there are a good few centimeters still in the frame - so it wasnt too concerning
About 3 or 4 inches would be my minimum, and with the seat up that high, I'd be more happy with about 6 inches.

I don't see a line, but many of the aero seatposts aren't very tall, leading to the speculation that not much is left in the frame.
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