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Old 07-21-22, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by big john
Years ago 3 of us went on a 5 day tour to Julian in the hills above San Diego. I think it was the fourth day and we were following a canyon road back to the coast. There was a gravel facility of some kind up there so there were gravel trucks buzzing us all the way. It was truly terrifying. In a right curve there was a truck inches away on my left using his Jake brake and a mountain on the right. A damn bee chose that moment to sting me on my forearm. I couldn't even reach over to flick it away until there was a turnout after the curve.

It was one of my longest days on a bike, about 11 hours. When we reached the coast it was almost dinner time and we had 40 miles to go into a stiff headwind. Part way through this ordeal I was following my friend and I realized he was trying to catch guys out on their evening rides while we were on loaded touring bikes.He got us close but couldn't close the deal so I went around to finish the bridge up. I couldn't do that now.
I ended up with a headwind on the way back as well, which is rare around here.

The last hour was pretty miserable, I'm wondering if the sting knocked something out of me or whether I just bonked.

Maybe a combination of the two. I wasn't exactly feeling fresh before I got stung.
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One of my patients has ADD and has been on the same exact medicine for years and years. Last year, his insurance declined to cover it. I had to spend 10 minutes talking to their "doctor" to convince them to cover it.

They sent a letter a year ago stating it was approved through 2039. Nice!

Now they sent me a letter saying it's NOT covered and if I want to try to get it covered again I have to waste my time talking to their "doctor" again. WTF??
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So a group of about 10 guys I know went on a cycling trip to Vermont last week.

So far, 3 of them have come down with Covid. I suspect more will fall. Luckily, all of them are having mild symptoms.
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So a group of about 10 guys I know went on a cycling trip to Vermont last week.

So far, 3 of them have come down with Covid. I suspect more will fall. Luckily, all of them are having mild symptoms.
Bernie is up there pushing BigVax.
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So a group of about 10 guys I know went on a cycling trip to Vermont last week.

So far, 3 of them have come down with Covid. I suspect more will fall. Luckily, all of them are having mild symptoms.
A lot of people have some misconceptions about VT. It's not all touchy-feely liberal in a lot of places like it is in Burlington. Sort of like OR in that way. You've got the Portland, Bend and Eugene areas, and there is everywhere else.

During the height of the pandemic it actually had some relatively high infection rates at times. I have ridden there twice during the last two years. Both times I got some looks when I wore a mask in public places like grocery stores.
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Old 07-21-22, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ls01
Sure, me too, on a burger, or a sandwich. Not straight out of a packet during a bike ride.
I haven't done it, but I've seen it done. I have been known to have a shot of pickle juice once at home.
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Originally Posted by datlas
One of my patients has ADD and has been on the same exact medicine for years and years. Last year, his insurance declined to cover it. I had to spend 10 minutes talking to their "doctor" to convince them to cover it.

They sent a letter a year ago stating it was approved through 2039. Nice!

Now they sent me a letter saying it's NOT covered and if I want to try to get it covered again I have to waste my time talking to their "doctor" again. WTF??
In other healthcare BS news; back in June, Mrs. rjones28's surgery had to get rescheduled because of COVID. New date is this Monday. We are now in a new fiscal year for BC/BS. So, naturally, the R&C for her procedure doubled. And the billing department can't seem to keep track of payments -- they asked for the pre-pay (that we paid in June) again this week. Good times.
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TIL air flows from AG’s office to mine. Sweating went insane when she started her ride.
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In other healthcare BS news; back in June, Mrs. rjones28's surgery had to get rescheduled because of COVID. New date is this Monday. We are now in a new fiscal year for BC/BS. So, naturally, the R&C for her procedure doubled. And the billing department can't seem to keep track of payments -- they asked for the pre-pay (that we paid in June) again this week. Good times.
Wow- I’m surprised they don’t make an exception for that. We kept cost share / YTD deductibles for anyone who had a procedure rescheduled at end of year last year into 2022. My understanding was that it’s pretty standard in the market.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
A lot of people have some misconceptions about VT. It's not all touchy-feely liberal in a lot of places like it is in Burlington. Sort of like OR in that way. You've got the Portland, Bend and Eugene areas, and there is everywhere else.

During the height of the pandemic it actually had some relatively high infection rates at times. I have ridden there twice during the last two years. Both times I got some looks when I wore a mask in public places like grocery stores.
Yah, VT is weird.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
In other healthcare BS news; back in June, Mrs. rjones28's surgery had to get rescheduled because of COVID. New date is this Monday. We are now in a new fiscal year for BC/BS. So, naturally, the R&C for her procedure doubled. And the billing department can't seem to keep track of payments -- they asked for the pre-pay (that we paid in June) again this week. Good times.
That is messed up. In my area, all the hospitals/physicians/facilities pretty much "accept assignment" and won't balance bill. So patients who have surgery done usually don't pay anything other than maybe a deductible.

That is also one reason why one of my former partners moved from SEPA to NC, she said she makes twice what she made here.

The system is clearly dysfunctional.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
A lot of people have some misconceptions about VT. It's not all touchy-feely liberal in a lot of places like it is in Burlington. Sort of like OR in that way. You've got the Portland, Bend and Eugene areas, and there is everywhere else.

During the height of the pandemic it actually had some relatively high infection rates at times. I have ridden there twice during the last two years. Both times I got some looks when I wore a mask in public places like grocery stores.
You find that in a lot of states. PA springs to mind. Last year visiting near Gettysburg, I would be the ONLY person in the little grocery store in Biglerville wearing a mask. At the Giant in Gettysburg, it was maybe 50:50.
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Originally Posted by datlas
That is messed up. In my area, all the hospitals/physicians/facilities pretty much "accept assignment" and won't balance bill. So patients who have surgery done usually don't pay anything other than maybe a deductible.

That is also one reason why one of my former partners moved from SEPA to NC, she said she makes twice what she made here.

The system is clearly dysfunctional.
You need to move. NC is nice.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
A lot of people have some misconceptions about VT. It's not all touchy-feely liberal in a lot of places like it is in Burlington. Sort of like OR in that way. You've got the Portland, Bend and Eugene areas, and there is everywhere else.

During the height of the pandemic it actually had some relatively high infection rates at times. I have ridden there twice during the last two years. Both times I got some looks when I wore a mask in public places like grocery stores.
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You find that in a lot of states. PA springs to mind.
MN, too - very much so. Broadly speaking, once I get out of the interstate loop surrounding the Twin Cities, it's easy to see that leanings change pretty sharply. Well, that and there's Duluth and (surprisingly to most) the Iron Range.
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Wow- I’m surprised they don’t make an exception for that. We kept cost share / YTD deductibles for anyone who had a procedure rescheduled at end of year last year into 2022. My understanding was that it’s pretty standard in the market.
I'm not surprised. I think, administratively, it was a cancellation and a new scheduling.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
You need to move. NC is nice.
I am aware. But aging family members on both sides of the family in NJ mean moving is not happening anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by datlas
That is messed up. In my area, all the hospitals/physicians/facilities pretty much "accept assignment" and won't balance bill. So patients who have surgery done usually don't pay anything other than maybe a deductible.

That is also one reason why one of my former partners moved from SEPA to NC, she said she makes twice what she made here.

The system is clearly dysfunctional.
They require the expected copay upfront.
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They require the expected copay upfront.
Current fiscal year copay, in bike terms, is about a new Emonda SL7.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
You find that in a lot of states. PA springs to mind. Last year visiting near Gettysburg, I would be the ONLY person in the little grocery store in Biglerville wearing a mask. At the Giant in Gettysburg, it was maybe 50:50.
When I rode across PA in 2020 I stopped for groceries in Everett, which is between Bedford and Breezewood. The grocery store was really crowded. There were signs on the door encouraging mask wearing but also reading that if you are not wearing one the management would assume you have an underlying health condition. Must have been a lot of people unhealthy people because maybe 80% of shoppers, if not more, were unmasked. I got in and out as quickly as possible.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
When I rode across PA in 2020 I stopped for groceries in Everett, which is between Bedford and Breezewood. The grocery store was really crowded. There were signs on the door encouraging mask wearing but also reading that if you are not wearing one the management would assume you have an underlying health condition. Must have been a lot of people unhealthy people because maybe 80% of shoppers, if not more, were unmasked. I got in and out as quickly as possible.
Well, in that store in B-ville, a lot of them looked kinda unhealthy. A lot of them had caught obesity.
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Thanks. Both my daughters have vintage vinyl rigs, too. It's kind of a thing in our family.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
A lot of people have some misconceptions about VT. It's not all touchy-feely liberal in a lot of places like it is in Burlington. Sort of like OR in that way. You've got the Portland, Bend and Eugene areas, and there is everywhere else.
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