Anything particularly unsafe about flat bars???
11-09-21, 10:02 AM
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Somehow it seems like a sensible assumption.
11-09-21, 10:39 AM
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11-09-21, 02:46 PM
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A Giant Fastroad, for instance could be considered a road bike certainly .... and a version with a 46-32 crank and 40-mm tires could be called a "flat-bar gravel bike." I know people who ride drop-bar gravel bikes (38-mm tires or more) on "road-bike" group rides. it's the motor, not the tire width. And if the guy on the Ultegra-equipped Fastroad can ride he can keep up, because, again, it is the motor, not the handlebars.
It's funny how if people actually read the original post and thus understand what the thread is about, they can make cogent responses .... and if not .....
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11-09-21, 03:33 PM
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Anything particularly unsafe about flat bars
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These will stop you being speared by an unprotected flat bar end and give you two or three extra hand positions!
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These will stop you being speared by an unprotected flat bar end and give you two or three extra hand positions!
Cheers
Mike
11-09-21, 05:10 PM
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I prefer flat bars personally although I have a friend that broke his sternum when we were kids so I can also see the safety issues there too.
My thing is if you are using bars that you're not comfortable riding with wouldn't that make it a bigger safety issue?
My thing is if you are using bars that you're not comfortable riding with wouldn't that make it a bigger safety issue?
11-09-21, 05:20 PM
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Bicycle impotence
If you ride on drop bars, there is less pressure on your crotch, less chance of impotence, If you ride upright on a big comfortable saddle, with flat bars, you are probably an old hippie, with saggy man tits and a saggy crotch unit. That would be a red flag safety issue with an older women.
11-09-21, 05:20 PM
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I like to see how many roadies I can hook at once with my bars.
OK, not my bike.
OK, not my bike.
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11-09-21, 05:59 PM
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If you want to go by that logic, flat bars are also banned in mass start races, it's drop bar only. Not just UCI sanctioned events - most (local to me, anyway) granfondos where I am actually go by these rules, too.
Frankly I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't ride road bikes to have the experience riding road bikes in a group and I really don't want some guy in front with a MTB squeezing the brakes and causing everyone to pile up or pulling some other stunt.
Frankly I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't ride road bikes to have the experience riding road bikes in a group and I really don't want some guy in front with a MTB squeezing the brakes and causing everyone to pile up or pulling some other stunt.
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Ahh!! The Road Bike Warrior Preying Mantis Super Deluxe.
I've been looking for one to mount my unmentionables on BF to skewer some drop bar Zombies hawging up my local MUPS.
BF delivers again!
I've been looking for one to mount my unmentionables on BF to skewer some drop bar Zombies hawging up my local MUPS.
BF delivers again!
11-10-21, 07:08 AM
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I'm going to get an actual set of moose antlers and mount it onto my stem. And just for safety, I'll mount a bell someplace on one of the antlers.
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If you want to go by that logic, flat bars are also banned in mass start races, it's drop bar only. Not just UCI sanctioned events - most (local to me, anyway) granfondos where I am actually go by these rules, too.
Frankly I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't ride road bikes to have the experience riding road bikes in a group and I really don't want some guy in front with a MTB squeezing the brakes and causing everyone to pile up or pulling some other stunt.
Frankly I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't ride road bikes to have the experience riding road bikes in a group and I really don't want some guy in front with a MTB squeezing the brakes and causing everyone to pile up or pulling some other stunt.
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11-10-21, 08:44 AM
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As has been pointed out elsewhere, many people ride in many different disciplines. Secondly, there are all kinds of newbie road riders who have no idea how to ride in a group. Just because the bars curve down doesn’t mean that they know how to use them. And, finally, anyone who rides a mountain bike knows far more about bike handling than someone who rides road bikes exclusively.
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The part about bike-handling is particularly true. When I rode a lot more MTB, where being able to make the bike do all sorts of unnatural things is the only way to clear many obstacles, my road riding improved a lot. Now that I haven't ridden off-road in several years I sometimes find myself trying to do a little wheelie or bunny hop on my road bike ... and the reflexes aren't there.
With an MTB the only time you spend with the bike upright, your butt in the saddle, and both wheels on the ground, is before the ride. When facing weird stuff on a road bike, having some reflexive response to situations where those things don't apply can be life-saving.
With an MTB the only time you spend with the bike upright, your butt in the saddle, and both wheels on the ground, is before the ride. When facing weird stuff on a road bike, having some reflexive response to situations where those things don't apply can be life-saving.
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The part about bike-handling is particularly true. When I rode a lot more MTB, where being able to make the bike do all sorts of unnatural things is the only way to clear many obstacles, my road riding improved a lot. Now that I haven't ridden off-road in several years I sometimes find myself trying to do a little wheelie or bunny hop on my road bike ... and the reflexes aren't there.
With an MTB the only time you spend with the bike upright, your butt in the saddle, and both wheels on the ground, is before the ride. When facing weird stuff on a road bike, having some reflexive response to situations where those things don't apply can be life-saving.
With an MTB the only time you spend with the bike upright, your butt in the saddle, and both wheels on the ground, is before the ride. When facing weird stuff on a road bike, having some reflexive response to situations where those things don't apply can be life-saving.
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As has been pointed out elsewhere, many people ride in many different disciplines. Secondly, there are all kinds of newbie road riders who have no idea how to ride in a group. Just because the bars curve down doesn’t mean that they know how to use them. And, finally, anyone who rides a mountain bike knows far more about bike handling than someone who rides road bikes exclusively.
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So there are no inexperienced newbs on mountain bikes? That last sentence is your bridge too far. I agree that the assumption that drop bar = more skilled is absurd, but so is the flat bar = more skilled assumption.
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The part about bike-handling is particularly true. When I rode a lot more MTB, where being able to make the bike do all sorts of unnatural things is the only way to clear many obstacles, my road riding improved a lot. Now that I haven't ridden off-road in several years I sometimes find myself trying to do a little wheelie or bunny hop on my road bike ... and the reflexes aren't there.
With an MTB the only time you spend with the bike upright, your butt in the saddle, and both wheels on the ground, is before the ride. When facing weird stuff on a road bike, having some reflexive response to situations where those things don't apply can be life-saving.
With an MTB the only time you spend with the bike upright, your butt in the saddle, and both wheels on the ground, is before the ride. When facing weird stuff on a road bike, having some reflexive response to situations where those things don't apply can be life-saving.
I don't doubt that's true, but you can't assume that all mountain bike riders actually have done any demanding riding, off-road or otherwise.
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True but you can’t assume that every road bike rider has done any group riding either. Nor that mountain bike riders haven’t done group riding. The scenario that was originally presented was about the lowest level ride of a club. It’s a pretty good assumption that you’ll find a fair number of newbies of all kinds at that level.
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'specially when you consider that MTBs are often the SUVs of the bike world - for many, they're simply the default choice and they may never be used off-road in any significant way.