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Old 08-31-20, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Hey datlas - I'm making some home made bread for dinner. It's just naan, but baby steps.
Kudos. Extra credit if you bake it in a Tandoori oven.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
We grew up poor and rural enough I actually learned how to too. I also learned how to adjust the controls on the backs of the final CRT monitors, which judging by everything I saw no one else did. Now I'm not even sure where I'd get a CRT.
I may have a couple lying around in the basement/crawl space.

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Kudos. Extra credit if you bake it in a Tandoori oven.
Nope. I think that I still have a pizza stone around someplace, though - would that be beneficial?
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
There is a pocket of enthusiasts that swear that gaming on a CRT is way, way better than on current monitors. I'd be kind of curious to try it out, but the prices have been driven up on the desirable widescreens and desk space would be problematic - they're so damn deep.
I hear record players sound great, too.
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Old 08-31-20, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I hear record players sound great, too.
Well, yeah. Way better than those CDs and MP3.
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Train to Pittsburgh and hotel for the first night are booked for 9/11.

Not my preferred route, but within my current wheelhouse if I take it slow and do short-ish days:

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/33925414

Map does not include PGH to Cumberland, MD via the GAP, which will be 150 miles over 3 days. Day 4 is 47 miles with 3,100' of climbing. I've done this route before. The cumulative effect of the the hills in that section get to you. Constant up or down the entire time. Just shortly before the campground there is a 1 mile climb with a ruling grade of 10%. The next day I get to ride the section of abandoned PA Turnpike.
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There are plenty of "serious" cyclists who are clueless about trim.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
105. I didn’t know trim was a thing when I got the bike. And it was rubbing bad. So I attacked it with park tool videos and did my best to fix it. It wasn’t until whyfi mentioned the trim that I realized I was a dumb ass. It probably came from CC dialed in and I messed it up.
It is a thing, but you don't always have to use it, depending on how big your chain angles are. I always try what you did first and it's great when it works.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
There is a pocket of enthusiasts that swear that gaming on a CRT is way, way better than on current monitors. I'd be kind of curious to try it out, but the prices have been driven up on the desirable widescreens and desk space would be problematic - they're so damn deep.
My understanding is that it's mostly for the very highest level Street Fighter types, where single-frame lag is critical. That's why the final Grand Wegas still command a premium (or did, last I checked). A decade ago the input lag of LCDs was not published, not tested, and thus often not optimized. Now it's routinely tested for good sets, and for typical gaming it's acceptable to have a lag of ~30ms. I doubt I'd notice the difference for Halo or Assassin's Creed.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
My understanding is that it's mostly for the very highest level Street Fighter types, where single-frame lag is critical. That's why the final Grand Wegas still command a premium (or did, last I checked). A decade ago the input lag of LCDs was not published, not tested, and thus often not optimized. Now it's routinely tested for good sets, and for typical gaming it's acceptable to have a lag of ~30ms. I doubt I'd notice the difference for Halo or Assassin's Creed.
Lag is one of the aspects, but I think that they're touted for being smoother with less ghosting/fewer artifacts, as well, so even the non-elite can enjoy the image quality.

I want to jump back in to a good game, but I always find myself with something "better" to do. Maybe in the winter.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Lag is one of the aspects, but I think that they're touted for being smoother with less ghosting/fewer artifacts, as well, so even the non-elite can enjoy the image quality.

I want to jump back in to a good game, but I always find myself with something "better" to do. Maybe in the winter.
I may just be lucky, but I've never noticed an issue with one of those.

The next AC is going to be Vikings, so that'll be a must-play even though I think it's gone downhill since Black Flag. My people.
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Other things that are way better:





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Originally Posted by indyfabz
The next day I get to ride the section of abandoned PA Turnpike.
Kudos if you ride through the tunnel.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Nope. I think that I still have a pizza stone around someplace, though - would that be beneficial?
Possibly. I have not searched YouTube to know for sure.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Train to Pittsburgh and hotel for the first night are booked for 9/11.

Not my preferred route, but within my current wheelhouse if I take it slow and do short-ish days:

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/33925414

Map does not include PGH to Cumberland, MD via the GAP, which will be 150 miles over 3 days. Day 4 is 47 miles with 3,100' of climbing. I've done this route before. The cumulative effect of the the hills in that section get to you. Constant up or down the entire time. Just shortly before the campground there is a 1 mile climb with a ruling grade of 10%. The next day I get to ride the section of abandoned PA Turnpike.
They have you on Route 23 from Mile 218 to 231. I strongly suggest you take some back roads instead, it may add 3 or 4 miles but that section of route 23 is not a good bike route. Trust me.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Train to Pittsburgh and hotel for the first night are booked for 9/11.

Not my preferred route, but within my current wheelhouse if I take it slow and do short-ish days:

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/33925414

Map does not include PGH to Cumberland, MD via the GAP, which will be 150 miles over 3 days. Day 4 is 47 miles with 3,100' of climbing. I've done this route before. The cumulative effect of the the hills in that section get to you. Constant up or down the entire time. Just shortly before the campground there is a 1 mile climb with a ruling grade of 10%. The next day I get to ride the section of abandoned PA Turnpike.
Wife is going to be spending the night at her mom's place on Thursday night. Makes me wish I would have jumped on a Tubus Duo that was for sale recently so I could do an overnight trip to a forest preserve. I've got panniers but no rack for them

Someday I'll go on a tour, I hope.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Other things that are way better:


Yep, have one.

Nope, takes forever to dial and can only be used for voice.

Nope. Unsafe in a crash, no nav, highly polluting, inefficient.

Nope, hard to get your quality content to the rest of us with that.

You're like 1/4 for rose-colored glasses.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
It's just naan, but baby steps.
How do you serve it?
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They have you on Route 23 from Mile 218 to 231. I strongly suggest you take some back roads instead, it may add 3 or 4 miles but that section of route 23 is not a good bike route. Trust me.
Deal breaker.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
You're like 1/4 for rose-colored glasses.
I was being sarcastic.

Imagine how many days it would take DougRNS to cut his 1/16th acre lawn if he had to power the mower himself?
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
It's an interesting story. First an asteroid hits, forming the basin of the lower Bay. That diverts a bunch of rivers in its direction. Then the Susquehanna erodes a canyon toward it and rising sea levels at the end of the last Ice Age cause the whole thing to flood.

The old river course is now a little over 100' in spots.
At first I had to ask myself “why is Mo telling me this obviously rum-infused old sailing yarn.” But it turns out to be true.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
The next AC is going to be Vikings, so that'll be a must-play even though I think it's gone downhill since Black Flag. My people.
Hmm. I thought that the popular opinion was that Odyssey revitalized the series? I stopped after Brotherhood (I think?). The obnoxious dragging out of the main storyline bugged me.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
How do you serve it?
With chicken tikka, basmati and some veggies.

I hope it turns out well. The organic naan around here is ridiculously expensive for what it is ($6 for three pieces).
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Other things that are way better:



My father had one of the earlier Pintos, the ones that the fuel tank ruptured on when they were hit in the back. His was parked in front of their house and was smashed into so hard it ended up two doors down but it did not leak fuel. It was junked just the same. I think a 55 Chevy hit it.
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Originally Posted by datlas
They have you on Route 23 from Mile 218 to 231. I strongly suggest you take some back roads instead, it may add 3 or 4 miles but that section of route 23 is not a good bike route. Trust me.
I debated going via French Creek to avoid Elverson, but I looked at recent Street View. The state has made improvements to the shoulderless section of 23. Not only is there a sidewalk for much of the way, bikes can take the entire lane. It will also be early Sunday morning. I’ve done that stretch before. Not my favorite, but going through French Creek and St. Peter’s adds 4.1 miles and nearly 900’ of climbing.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Kudos if you ride through the tunnel.
Tunnels. Plural. I’ve did them in 2013 with just a camping headlamp for a light. Camping headlamps have a diffuse beam. I now have a proper 500 lumen bike light. Made it through the 1.66 mile unlit St. Paul Pass Tunnel on the Route of the Hiawatha Trail with it.

When I rode the Turnpike in 2013, a guy I know gave me some great advice. You can still see the remnants of the median stripe. He said to just follow that to prevent disorientation.

Look what I found:

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