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03-11-19, 08:43 PM
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We can agree to have different opinions, I hope.
03-11-19, 09:16 PM
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Next: The No. 1 state for dangerous drivers is…
1. California
With over 300 hit and runs and over 3,000 deadly traffic accidents, California tops the list. | SeanPavonePhoto/iStock/Getty Images
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1. California
With over 300 hit and runs and over 3,000 deadly traffic accidents, California tops the list. | SeanPavonePhoto/iStock/Getty Images
- Hit and runs: 337
- Total driving fatalities: 3,623
The Cheat Sheet
03-12-19, 01:08 AM
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Except that's not an opinion its a counterpoint, and doesn't dismiss any of points I made. Florida is always in the top 10 and usually in the top 5. If there's any state that needs video as incident support Florida would be one of them.
Next: The No. 1 state for dangerous drivers is…
1. California
The Cheat Sheet
1. California
With over 300 hit and runs and over 3,000 deadly traffic accidents, California tops the list. | SeanPavonePhoto/iStock/Getty Images
- Hit and runs: 337
- Total driving fatalities: 3,623
The Cheat Sheet
The reason either St. Pete, Orlando, or Tampa regularly win the "Deadliest Cycling City" award is that it is calculated by fatalities per capita---and discusses exclusively Cycling deaths, not all fatalities. No one doubts that driving in LA is dangerous---but a lot of that road rage and a lot of the accidents are on limited access highways where there are no cyclists.
In fact, had this been a real debate, you would have cited an article like this one from 2014: (https://www.latimes.com/business/aut...027-story.html) "Bicycle traffic deaths soar; California leads nation"
Excerpt: "California, with 338 cyclists killed in collisions with motor vehicles, and Florida, with 329, had the highest totals during that period, the report said.
"They also had the largest increases in annual cyclist traffic fatalities from 2010 to 2012. Florida's deaths rose by 37 to 120 in 2012 while cyclist traffic fatalities in California rose by 23 to 123. California had the most bicyclists killed of any state in 2012."
Now lets compare populations:
Florida population: 20.98 million (2017)
California population: 39.54 million (2017)
So, by those numbers cycling in California as Twice as Safe as cycling in Florida.
And I rode through the worst periods in Florida's recent history for cycling deaths, in the deadliest city, not just the deadliest state .... and I was alright, and still am.
As I suggested above ... let's leave this one. In your opinion SoCal is deadly to cyclists .... The fact that no other SoCal riders are jumping in here screaming "Yeah, this place is a war zone" leads me to think that rider attitude, as much as environment, determines both one's perception of and incidence of close encounters of the auto kind.
Ride safe.
03-12-19, 01:33 AM
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And here you conflate and ignore ... is that accidents per capita? Californian has a Lot more drivers . It also has a lot more freeways which are essential for commuters and don't allow cyclists.
The reason either St. Pete, Orlando, or Tampa regularly win the "Deadliest Cycling City" award is that it is calculated by fatalities per capita---and discusses exclusively Cycling deaths, not all fatalities. No one doubts that driving in LA is dangerous---but a lot of that road rage and a lot of the accidents are on limited access highways where there are no cyclists.
In fact, had this been a real debate, you would have cited an article like this one from 2014: (https://www.latimes.com/business/aut...027-story.html) "Bicycle traffic deaths soar; California leads nation"
Excerpt: "California, with 338 cyclists killed in collisions with motor vehicles, and Florida, with 329, had the highest totals during that period, the report said.
"They also had the largest increases in annual cyclist traffic fatalities from 2010 to 2012. Florida's deaths rose by 37 to 120 in 2012 while cyclist traffic fatalities in California rose by 23 to 123. California had the most bicyclists killed of any state in 2012."
Now lets compare populations:
Florida population: 20.98 million (2017)
California population: 39.54 million (2017)
So, by those numbers cycling in California as Twice as Safe as cycling in Florida.
And I rode through the worst periods in Florida's recent history for cycling deaths, in the deadliest city, not just the deadliest state .... and I was alright, and still am.
The reason either St. Pete, Orlando, or Tampa regularly win the "Deadliest Cycling City" award is that it is calculated by fatalities per capita---and discusses exclusively Cycling deaths, not all fatalities. No one doubts that driving in LA is dangerous---but a lot of that road rage and a lot of the accidents are on limited access highways where there are no cyclists.
In fact, had this been a real debate, you would have cited an article like this one from 2014: (https://www.latimes.com/business/aut...027-story.html) "Bicycle traffic deaths soar; California leads nation"
Excerpt: "California, with 338 cyclists killed in collisions with motor vehicles, and Florida, with 329, had the highest totals during that period, the report said.
"They also had the largest increases in annual cyclist traffic fatalities from 2010 to 2012. Florida's deaths rose by 37 to 120 in 2012 while cyclist traffic fatalities in California rose by 23 to 123. California had the most bicyclists killed of any state in 2012."
Now lets compare populations:
Florida population: 20.98 million (2017)
California population: 39.54 million (2017)
So, by those numbers cycling in California as Twice as Safe as cycling in Florida.
And I rode through the worst periods in Florida's recent history for cycling deaths, in the deadliest city, not just the deadliest state .... and I was alright, and still am.
As I suggested above ... let's leave this one. In your opinion SoCal is deadly to cyclists .... The fact that no other SoCal riders are jumping in here screaming "Yeah, this place is a war zone" leads me to think that rider attitude, as much as environment, determines both one's perception of and incidence of close encounters of the auto kind.
Ride safe.
03-16-19, 02:03 PM
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Most likely user error. One of the many compromises you make with a less expensive camera is features. Not really a problem once you recognize its limitations. Despite all the hullabaloo you hear online about a camera's superior low-light capability, any good photography needs good light. If the footage is grainy it was probably taken at dawn or dusk.
There's also the possibility of using the wrong settings, poor handling, uploading, post-processing, etc. of the footage after it was acquired. Without knowing those details, this list is endless. The best advice is to learn your camera, and know its limitations. All cameras have them regardless of price.
Again, very true.
03-17-19, 11:42 AM
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