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Old 05-13-22, 12:30 AM
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Is this tire pooched?

I was out for a ride today and blew a tire, I came off a path and it was a bit gravely but I was going slow and being cautious. Anyway the tire let go, The sealant almost got it but not quite. I stopped, and put a patch on the inside of the tire. There still seemed to be a good bit of sealant left. I got it up to pressure and it held. Luckily I was only 15km from home so I bee-lined it. It held, and is still holding, but I don't have a lot of confidence in it. I think I might look into a plug kit. The tire is a Pirelli P-One 700x28 TLR tire with only 250km on it.

I know **** happens but I'm a little gunshy to order another P-One since for some reason I can get Conti GP 5k for not much more than half the price. I'd appreciate some input

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Old 05-13-22, 05:52 AM
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Looks like it’s the rear tire…? If so, I’d run it. Worst that happens is it goes flat while you’re riding and you put in a tube. It’s highly unlikely to cause you to crash or anything else catastrophic.
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Is this tire pooched?
The answer is in your title!

Doesn't look inflated. For cuts like that when inflated to riding pressure, my go no-go is if the sides around the cut pooch out like a grandma's lips wanting a kiss . Especially if a tubed tire and the tube pooches out. No one wants to be french kissed by grand ma!

Though if I had to get home, I'd ride it as long as it lasted. And if it lasted all the way home, I might ride it some more just to see. Unless my upcoming rides were important to me or group rides where I might be a hinderance to the group or at least the butt of some virulent jesting and picking. <grin>

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Originally Posted by Ryan_M
II stopped, and put a patch on the inside of the tire. There still seemed to be a good bit of sealant left. I got it up to pressure and it held. Luckily I was only 15km from home so I bee-lined it. It held, and is still holding, but I don't have a lot of confidence in it. I think I might look into a plug kit.
As long as you used a proper tubeless patch, which are stronger than for tubes, it will probably be OK but carry a tube just in case. Not likely a plug will work for a cut. Plugs work OK for smaller round holes.
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I would sure take a good look at it mounted and inflated before trying it. Like always, it's your call. Even if I did try it, it would likely be driving me crazy and I would switch it out in the end.
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wow, learn something new everyday. I'm fairly ignorant about tubeless. I'd bet a dollar, if it wasn't tubeless, everyone would be advising to chuck it
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Originally Posted by Iride01
The answer is in your title!

Doesn't look inflated. For cuts like that when inflated to riding pressure, my go no-go is if the sides around the cut pooch out like a grandma's lips wanting a kiss . Especially if a tubed tire and the tube pooches out. No one wants to be french kissed by grand ma!

Though if I had to get home, I'd ride it as long as it lasted. And if it lasted all the way home, I might ride it some more just to see. Unless my upcoming rides were important to me or group rides where I might be a hinderance to the group or at least the butt of some virulent jesting and picking. <grin>
Ah, I didn't notice that. Then yeah, I agree with this.
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To clear up the confusion, the tire is inflated and at pressure in the pic.

Some good points here. I used a regular patch, I had a tube with me but was hoping this would hold to get me home - which it did. I wasn't aware there are tubeless specific ones so I may try that #1 so I have them in my kit, and #2 so I have a viable spare tire to use in a pinch. Thanks for the heads-up on not using a plug too, I might have tried that. I think I agree with the posters here that say this would nag them. I'm sure I'd be in the same boat before long.
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Since the cut is not pooched out, then none or few of the threads and cords that give strength to your tire were cut. If tire in the picture was inflated to your normal riding pressure, then I'd say no sweat, ride the crap out of the tire.

When patching a tire, if possible reinforced patches that don't stretch much if any, will be better for tires than the rubber patches for tubes that must stretch. IMO though. I have used a piece of sail repair cloth that is self adhesive to patch some small tire cuts. But I already had the sail repair tape, don't know whether it's cost effective for one tire patch.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
Since the cut is not pooched out, then none or few of the threads and cords that give strength to your tire were cut. If tire in the picture was inflated to your normal riding pressure, then I'd say no sweat, ride the crap out of the tire..
This is key. If the tire has a bulge, the casing is compromised and even if it holds up, that point will wear very quickly. If you're cheap, you can boot it from the inside to prevent failure, but you can't prevent the rapid wear at the bulge point.
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