Asians in the Tour De France?
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Asians in the Tour De France?
I don't know if there are any rules or regulations but why don't I see any Asians in the Tour de France? Am I not looking hard enough?
I mean, countries like China have many people who bike, mostly cause not everyone can afford a car and its too populated to move around in a car cause of traffic. You'd think that kids would naturally have to urge to race each other on the street for entertainment since thats their way of transportation, to school and from, (Japan as well) Why wouldn't the child fun lead to anything more? Pro racing? China has sport systems, where the gov't recruits kids at a young age and take them away from their homes and parents to the big city to pursue sports. Kids are recruited based on height, family history, bone density and their natural build. They are recruited for sports such as such as basketball, gymnastics, track and field, olympic cycling, etc. Why don't they go independent and join cycling team? Most of them start at a young age, and do it everyday, just as we use cars to get around in America.
I know they have Asian Games and stuff but why not go higher? Why isn't cycling so popular in the Asian countries? Am I missing something here?
I mean, countries like China have many people who bike, mostly cause not everyone can afford a car and its too populated to move around in a car cause of traffic. You'd think that kids would naturally have to urge to race each other on the street for entertainment since thats their way of transportation, to school and from, (Japan as well) Why wouldn't the child fun lead to anything more? Pro racing? China has sport systems, where the gov't recruits kids at a young age and take them away from their homes and parents to the big city to pursue sports. Kids are recruited based on height, family history, bone density and their natural build. They are recruited for sports such as such as basketball, gymnastics, track and field, olympic cycling, etc. Why don't they go independent and join cycling team? Most of them start at a young age, and do it everyday, just as we use cars to get around in America.
I know they have Asian Games and stuff but why not go higher? Why isn't cycling so popular in the Asian countries? Am I missing something here?
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Disco has/had a Japanese rider in its ranks, but not on the Tour team.
Most of the Pro Tour teams are sponsored by European companies and are European based. Probably not much access to Asian scouting.
Most of the Pro Tour teams are sponsored by European companies and are European based. Probably not much access to Asian scouting.
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You'll see them soon enough. Cycling, in non-European countries, is not always the biggest thing around. But it is growing, especially in the larger countries as it can be an expensive sport.
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Originally Posted by 0810
I don't know if there are any rules or regulations but why don't I see any Asians in the Tour de France? Am I not looking hard enough?
I mean, countries like China have many people who bike, mostly cause not everyone can afford a car and its too populated to move around in a car cause of traffic. You'd think that kids would naturally have to urge to race each other on the street for entertainment since thats their way of transportation, to school and from, (Japan as well) Why wouldn't the child fun lead to anything more? Pro racing? China has sport systems, where the gov't recruits kids at a young age and take them away from their homes and parents to the big city to pursue sports. Kids are recruited based on height, family history, bone density and their natural build. They are recruited for sports such as such as basketball, gymnastics, track and field, olympic cycling, etc. Why don't they go independent and join cycling team? Most of them start at a young age, and do it everyday, just as we use cars to get around in America.
I know they have Asian Games and stuff but why not go higher? Why isn't cycling so popular in the Asian countries? Am I missing something here?
I mean, countries like China have many people who bike, mostly cause not everyone can afford a car and its too populated to move around in a car cause of traffic. You'd think that kids would naturally have to urge to race each other on the street for entertainment since thats their way of transportation, to school and from, (Japan as well) Why wouldn't the child fun lead to anything more? Pro racing? China has sport systems, where the gov't recruits kids at a young age and take them away from their homes and parents to the big city to pursue sports. Kids are recruited based on height, family history, bone density and their natural build. They are recruited for sports such as such as basketball, gymnastics, track and field, olympic cycling, etc. Why don't they go independent and join cycling team? Most of them start at a young age, and do it everyday, just as we use cars to get around in America.
I know they have Asian Games and stuff but why not go higher? Why isn't cycling so popular in the Asian countries? Am I missing something here?
1) big buy in for the cost of the gear
2) bone density does not make you a cyclist, if the kid does not want to ride for 8 hours a day, they probably won't go pro, even if you raise them to.
3) why the hell would you even raise pro-cyclists?
4) olympics are technically amateurs, I know olympic cyclists who were not picked up professionally, and certainly not by pro-tour teams.
5) there is a kid in the projects down the street from me who can ride a wheelie for a mile easily, he's not getting picked up by the pro-teams.
6) these kids like bikes, pro team?
7) how many black cyclists are in the peleton?
8) does it count if the rider looks asian but is really a native from canada?
*what if they are of asian ancestry but were raised in idaho?
9) big difference from riding a bike everyday and racing at any level
10) what are the stats showing that most of the populations of japan or china ride bikes? if you can't afford a car, you walk.
11) why don't I see more italians in martial arts tournaments, I mean, italians like to fight and everything, and their poor, so it's how they entertain themselves as kids.
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Unfortunately around here the majority of cyclists don't give a rats about the tour. There is a big interest in National and Local road races, but most interest is in Keirin because of the gambling. Most of the pro riders here are Keirin Track Riders, in fact one very famous one posts on BF often.
Side note: I don't have satellite so I had to go to a sports bar to watch the tour. The most viewers I saw during the whole 23 days was 4 people on one of the nights. Most of the time there was 1 (me).
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Side note: I don't have satellite so I had to go to a sports bar to watch the tour. The most viewers I saw during the whole 23 days was 4 people on one of the nights. Most of the time there was 1 (me).
Steve.
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Originally Posted by magic8ball
1) big buy in for the cost of the gear
2) bone density does not make you a cyclist, if the kid does not want to ride for 8 hours a day, they probably won't go pro, even if you raise them to.
3) why the hell would you even raise pro-cyclists?
4) olympics are technically amateurs, I know olympic cyclists who were not picked up professionally, and certainly not by pro-tour teams.
5) there is a kid in the projects down the street from me who can ride a wheelie for a mile easily, he's not getting picked up by the pro-teams.
6) these kids like bikes, pro team?
7) how many black cyclists are in the peleton?
8) does it count if the rider looks asian but is really a native from canada?
*what if they are of asian ancestry but were raised in idaho?
9) big difference from riding a bike everyday and racing at any level
10) what are the stats showing that most of the populations of japan or china ride bikes? if you can't afford a car, you walk.
11) why don't I see more italians in martial arts tournaments, I mean, italians like to fight and everything, and their poor, so it's how they entertain themselves as kids.
2) bone density does not make you a cyclist, if the kid does not want to ride for 8 hours a day, they probably won't go pro, even if you raise them to.
3) why the hell would you even raise pro-cyclists?
4) olympics are technically amateurs, I know olympic cyclists who were not picked up professionally, and certainly not by pro-tour teams.
5) there is a kid in the projects down the street from me who can ride a wheelie for a mile easily, he's not getting picked up by the pro-teams.
6) these kids like bikes, pro team?
7) how many black cyclists are in the peleton?
8) does it count if the rider looks asian but is really a native from canada?
*what if they are of asian ancestry but were raised in idaho?
9) big difference from riding a bike everyday and racing at any level
10) what are the stats showing that most of the populations of japan or china ride bikes? if you can't afford a car, you walk.
11) why don't I see more italians in martial arts tournaments, I mean, italians like to fight and everything, and their poor, so it's how they entertain themselves as kids.
2)i didnt say they used bone density for cyclist, just an ideal who to spend money on
3)why not? why raise gymnast or basketball players when asians are short?
4)exactly, why not go higher?
5)i didnt say a kid who get picked up, why not turn a hobby into a living. did you think barry bonds started playing until he was an adult? no.
6)wtf?
7)huh?
8)i guess, but id like to see other countries
9)exactly my point, why dont they turn an everyday thing into more? just like you start biking daily, get more into it, and enter amateur races
10)have you been to china or japan?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ppl2TZ8mHkk
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fuBh9HMFr...ghai%20traffic
For 1.2billion people in China, there are probably well over 1 billion bikes
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Originally Posted by magic8ball
10) what are the stats showing that most of the populations of japan or china ride bikes? if you can't afford a car, you walk.
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@ giantcfr1:
Who would that famous Keirin racer be? The older guys at the LBS I volunteer in say I'd be awesome at the track, and I myself am having a love affair with track racing right now.
Who would that famous Keirin racer be? The older guys at the LBS I volunteer in say I'd be awesome at the track, and I myself am having a love affair with track racing right now.
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don't get me wrong i love asians some of my best friends are asians but an asian could never make it through the tour de france honestly.
lol kidding obviously but i think there are some asian international teams and races starting. there's not at TdF level yet, but maybe they will be in the near future.
lol kidding obviously but i think there are some asian international teams and races starting. there's not at TdF level yet, but maybe they will be in the near future.
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tokyo is the largest city in the world in terms of population, over 28 million people.
new york is about 3 times smaller than tokyo in area but has 8 million people. even if there were 3 newyorks put together, thats only 24 million.
new york is about 3 times smaller than tokyo in area but has 8 million people. even if there were 3 newyorks put together, thats only 24 million.
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The Astana pro cycling team is primarily sponsored by a group of Asian companies and is led by the road racing champion of the Asian country where he was born and raised. While racing for other teams, this star racer placed 5th overall in the Tour de France in both 2004 and 2005. The team had high hopes for the 2006 Tour and their leader was considered to be one of the overall favorites. For very suspicious reasons, the team and their star rider were barred from the 2006 Tour de France at the very last minute. Was this part of an anti-Asian conspiracy**********
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I don't know if there are any rules or regulations but why don't I see any Asians in the Tour de France? Am I not looking hard enough?
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Part of it is that theres not a whole lot of corporate sponsonship for sports in China.....yet. And there's still a bit of a different mentality to the bicycle in China. Its for transprotation, not fun. If you try to explain about riding a bike for fun on a hot day, or rainy or what ever, it just won't sink in. "Why don't you just take the bus instead? The idea of bicycle racing is over the top for most.
And their love affair with Yao Ming and the NBA pretty much prevents anybody from caring about any other sport right now.
And their love affair with Yao Ming and the NBA pretty much prevents anybody from caring about any other sport right now.
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Originally Posted by 7rider
It's all about culture, money and role models. Why don't I see any blacks in sumo wrestling? Why don't I see any Asian Indians in the Winter Olympics? Blah, blah, blah. Troll.
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Originally Posted by classic1
Djamoladin Adduj..Abdou.... That bloke from Uzbekistan was Asian.
Classic comedy!!!
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Originally Posted by HolyInstantRice
@ giantcfr1:
Who would that famous Keirin racer be? The older guys at the LBS I volunteer in say I'd be awesome at the track, and I myself am having a love affair with track racing right now.
Who would that famous Keirin racer be? The older guys at the LBS I volunteer in say I'd be awesome at the track, and I myself am having a love affair with track racing right now.
Steve
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Originally Posted by rapidcarbon
because Asians can't afford EPO
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Originally Posted by kleng
They use opium with a ginseng masking agent instead.
To get back to the topic, I grew up in Indonesia. I can say that cycling as a sport is pretty popular. In fact it's more popular than it is here in the states.
The local TV there cover TdF and Giro d'Italia. We have several "tours". And I used to live a few blocks away from a velodrome.
But lack of funding and corruption kinda kills the athlete development.
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Originally Posted by Mothra
While the numbers may not a large percentage of TDF candidates amongst Asians, you can't predict the individual. Looks like Jet Li would certainly have the physical make-up and condition to be a good cyclist. I think the factors are social, Asians are mostly 3rd world countries aside from Japan and a few of the more developed ones. But Asian as a group, hasn't had the history of easy-living that the US or Europeans have to pursue athletic pursuits...
Then again, look at all the keirin riders in Japan...
Then again, look at all the keirin riders in Japan...
i just think bike racing as a sport is not developed in asia right now.
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Originally Posted by Mothra
Asian as a group, hasn't had the history of easy-living that the US or Europeans have to pursue athletic pursuits...
Then again, look at all the keirin riders in Japan...
Then again, look at all the keirin riders in Japan...
keirin riders, as an exception (or not), attend special 'keirin school' where they are basically sequestered for school and riding.