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Old 10-24-20, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by madpogue
^^^^ What happens if an asteroid collides with one of the polar ice caps?
If it's a big one, we install studded tyres on our bicycles.
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
So, it sounds like, no.

Heard from gugie . Any other builders out here want to weigh in? @bulgie?
Oh, there is a rule of thumb. 10 cm. (Right thumb.) Left thumb - 14 cm. Each of the other 8 digits all have there own rules. We are talking bicycles. "We have standards, real standards (and lots of them)."
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
Downtube shift levers should be positioned so that the inevitable paint chip caused by contact from the front brake's cable adjustment knob is obscured when the lever is all the way forward.
I'm gonna consider this the rule.



That's 11.5cm, shifter to head tube (c-c). I like it!

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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
Heard from gugie . Any other builders out here want to weigh in? @bulgie?
]There are both functional as well as aesthetic reasons for where the down tube shifter braze-ons are located. My preference is that the tip of the lever is equal to (or straight across from) the tip of the down tube lug. It looks right there. I even made a little boss placement tool to help me set it there. This also keeps the boss in the heavier butted portion of the down tube before it starts to taper thinner. In addition that position helps to give the proper amount of room for the down tube lettering that on classic bikes is located between the upper water bottle boss and the DT shifter boss.

I went out to my shop where I measured a few of my classic frames I keep around for frame building class student inspection. My Masi and Colnago where 100mm from the head tube. My Hetchins was 120mm. My 1965 Schwinn Super Sport (before they put the shift levers up on the stem) at 95mm.
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
Hey, seadog! Would you rather I worry about the polar icecaps melting or an asteroid collision? This is something I can actually control!
that's Mr. C.Dogge to you.
Men who ride fixed can melt ice caps and crush asteroids!


The correct answer is: It depends!
Decal?, Dents to hide?, Chips to cover?
What size bottle on the downtube? Shifters must balance appropriately.

Also, inversely proportional to the length of your armstofingertips; when ya need to shift fast on a wet steep climb, in traffic, with no bike lane, while avoiding the broken glass.

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Originally Posted by madpogue
^^^^ What happens if an asteroid collides with one of the polar ice caps?
Right now, I'm more worried it's gonna collide with his downtube.

Why do you put these terrible thoughts in my head, you monster?
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Originally Posted by madpogue
^^^^ What happens if an asteroid collides with one of the polar ice caps?
I guess whiskey on ice as the lights fade.
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1. Install the front caliper.
2. Turn bars to the R until the caliper hits the DT.
3. Put the shifters a bit lower than the DT scar so it’s immediately noticeable.
4. Done.

Simple.
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Originally Posted by bulgie
Where I wanted mine, the pump peg was in the way. I didn't let that stop me
You drilled through the word Campagnolo**********?
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Originally Posted by tiger1964
You drilled through the word Campagnolo**********?
"Is nothing sacred anymore?"
Nope!

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Where do Downtube shifters go?

Where do Downtube shifters go?

In the pile of parts that I take to the co-op.

All of my drop-bar bikes have old school SunTour friction/ratcheting barcons.
Other bikes with upright have trigger shift (3-speed), or thumbies...
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Originally Posted by madpogue
^^^^ What happens if an asteroid collides with one of the polar ice caps?
If that happens, go with barcons.
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Originally Posted by gugie
If that happens, go with barcons.
And a Schwinn Varsinental.
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Originally Posted by Cougrrcj
Where do down tube shifters go?

In the pile of parts that I take to the co-op...
Got any Triomphe ones?
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Originally Posted by BFisher
And a Schwinn Varsinental.
I'll bite on this zombie thread.

It's a well known fact that the only bikes that will survive the zombie apocolypse will be vintage Varsinentals. Can't kill those.
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Originally Posted by gugie
I'll bite on this zombie thread.

It's a well known fact that the only bikes that will survive the zombie apocolypse will be vintage Varsinentals. Can't kill those.
And by then, the surviving cockroaches, having feasted on the surviving twinkies, will be large enough to ride them.
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Where do down tube shifters go?
Not always on the down tube!

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Originally Posted by T-Mar
Downtube shift levers should be positioned so that the inevitable paint chip caused by contact from the front brake's cable adjustment knob is obscured when the lever is all the forward and you're cranking along in high gear.
Or the paint removal caused by the right-hand thumbnail when slamming the lever fully forward. Also fairly common back then.
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
Not always on the down tube!

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And not just on "funny bikes:"

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Originally Posted by iab
Where it's best for you?
obviously you are a rule breaker, a subversive.
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I know that I can't be the only rider who ever (more than once) noticed the possibility of one's fingers nearly getting sucked into the fork crown by the passing front tire.

A rider riding behind me once got tipped forward on his older Colnago when that happened, getting briefly knocked out and with his front tire left contacting the down tube.

I say play it safe, and that some frames (especially ones with tight-ish tire clearances) seem to have their DT lever positioning too far forward for safety.
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I know that I can't be the only rider who ever (more than once) noticed the possibility of one's fingers nearly getting sucked into the fork crown by the passing front tire.
Definitely not something I even remotely worry about...
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Originally Posted by smd4
Definitely not something I even remotely worry about...
I don't much worry about death either, ...though it's still a remote consideration at decision-making times.
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Originally Posted by dddd
I don't much worry about death either, though it's still a consideration at decision-making times.
It's all pretty simple really: Don't squeeze the front brake as hard as you can at the end of a 40 mph down hill. Don't try to do a 180 degree right hand turn in a 6-foot radius with your left foot at three o'clock. And don't insert your hand into the spinning wheel at the front of your bike when you try to shift, or touch the tire.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. There is just so much unnecessary gnashing of teeth, fretting, and all around skittishness sometimes on these boards. With all the worrying, it's a wonder people haven't given up riding bikes altogether for a safer hobby, like Sudoku.
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
Not always on the down tube!

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The riders fingers are definitely safe in this configuration. Undercarriage? Not so much.
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