Campagnolo brake drop bolt: incompatible?
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Campagnolo brake drop bolt: incompatible?
Well, I was OK with the rear brake being a wee bit short; I knew drop bolts existed. So, I ordered one from a parts seller (NOT eBay), the price was OK and "near mint". It arrived last night and i just started assembly of the brake and
? Brake arms won't go on. The micrometer says shaft is 6.04mm, hole in brake arms 5.95mm. Yeah, "Campagnolo compatible" no markings. Anyone run into this? Perhaps later brakes than the Record used a different diameter, and this bolt is for that? Goes to show, "universal application" is relative; perhaps it fits Dura-Ace brakes?
Tempted to bore out the brake arms but I presume I'd never get it right.

Tempted to bore out the brake arms but I presume I'd never get it right.
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I have not had that experience. The campy been compatible with all the standard pieces.
I just picked up the Shimano 7200 series calipers with the drop bolt. I haven't pulled it apart but it's not what you have.
I just picked up the Shimano 7200 series calipers with the drop bolt. I haven't pulled it apart but it's not what you have.
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both shaft and hole likely to be 6mm nominal
.09mm quite a small difference
possible bolt may have been compatible diameter prior to plating
would definitely take some emery cloth to shaft before enlarging hole in caliper arms
removal of some plating should be eno'
it is available in strip form on rolls; used by plumbers to dress copper pipe ends prior to soldering
prior to rendering any alteration check to verify that thread is the correct 6.0mm X 1.0
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both shaft and hole likely to be 6mm nominal
.09mm quite a small difference
possible bolt may have been compatible diameter prior to plating
would definitely take some emery cloth to shaft before enlarging hole in caliper arms
removal of some plating should be eno'
it is available in strip form on rolls; used by plumbers to dress copper pipe ends prior to soldering
prior to rendering any alteration check to verify that thread is the correct 6.0mm X 1.0
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----- both shaft and hole likely to be 6mm nominal .09mm quite a small difference possible bolt may have been compatible diameter prior to plating would definitely take some emery cloth to shaft before enlarging hole in caliper arms removal of some plating should be eno' it is available in strip form on rolls; used by plumbers to dress copper pipe ends prior to soldering prior to rendering any alteration check to verify that thread is the correct 6.0mm X 1.0 -----
(b) pretty sure I have emery cloth; once, long ago, I replumbed the entire house, in copper, including all the radiators.
OK, I am considering it. I have found ONE genuine Campagnolo bolt, in OK but not great shape so this might be a solution. I just tried putting the threaded end in an electric drill's chuck and it actually spins without oscillating out of control due to the offset. I would have thought the chrome would wear out the emery cloth rather than the other way around.
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I had this exact problem. I ordered a "Campagnolo" drop bolt from an eBay seller in Europe and it turned out to be a Modolo bolt that had too large a diameter. I had difficulty sourcing a proper bolt and eventually bought one from an eBay seller in the US (southern California I think) who makes them out of titanium. That one worked perfectly, though it was a bit pricey. I bet I saved a whole 1/2 oz of weight too!
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I had this exact problem. I ordered a "Campagnolo" drop bolt from an eBay seller in Europe and it turned out to be a Modolo bolt that had too large a diameter. I had difficulty sourcing a proper bolt and eventually bought one from an eBay seller in the US (southern California I think) who makes them out of titanium. That one worked perfectly, though it was a bit pricey. I bet I saved a whole 1/2 oz of weight too!
At one point he was in the CR Google group, probably still is.
he did have an eBay presence, might find him by searching for an Italian titanium bottom bracket lock ring.
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I heard from the seller late last night. She was surprised and offered that I could (a) return it, (b) modify the bolt, or (c) perhaps the brake arms were not to spec and could be modified 

. Uh, the non-drop bolt has been in there for almost 50 years, so (c) is a non-starter IMHO.
SUCCESS!
I chucked up the bolt in my cordless drill, laid it on its side so kinda a mini-pseudo-lathe. I cut 15mm strips of emery and it really did not seem to be cutting much. But I had a fine file of the right width, that did "get me there". Arms go on and actuate smoothly now (I worried about taking a couple of 1000'ths too much off and having permanent brake chatter).
Very interesting. Drop-bolt has no markings at all. I was online shopping and seeing various sellers, some on eBay, all using the exact same photo where there are no markings on the bolt but a Campagnolo box in the background. What I bought looks identical to my eye. Hmm, a quick search for "Modolo drop bolt" gets no specific hits/photos. Could this be that bolt? I do not know.
Titanium would be cool but I'm already spending plenty on this project -- and the resultant bike is going to be 24LB+ anyway. I think.
Hopefully, future readers looking to install a drop bolt will find this interesting/useful.
UPDATE: The brake assembled well, but when I went to install it the bolt was too tight for the rear brake bridge! A few minutes with a rat-tail file fixed that, but another data point on this bolt.




Hopefully, future readers looking to install a drop bolt will find this interesting/useful.
UPDATE: The brake assembled well, but when I went to install it the bolt was too tight for the rear brake bridge! A few minutes with a rat-tail file fixed that, but another data point on this bolt.
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Can you post a pic of your drop bolt that didn’t work?
in my random box o parts I got from my deaf/blind bike shop owner was a bunch of drop bolts. It would be good to know what works and what doesn’t.
in my random box o parts I got from my deaf/blind bike shop owner was a bunch of drop bolts. It would be good to know what works and what doesn’t.
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Well, that is Justyne.
She is honorable.
If you were to explain your circumstance, I’m sure your money would be refunded.
She lives less than a mile from me. Many of us on the site have bought incredible pieces from her at good prices.
She is honorable.
If you were to explain your circumstance, I’m sure your money would be refunded.
She lives less than a mile from me. Many of us on the site have bought incredible pieces from her at good prices.
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She seemed concerned; and she did offer return/credit. One could presume she was told it was compatible, and thus why would anyone check?
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tiger1964 Exactly what brakes are we talking about? You mention brakes "newer then Record" but which ones?
I tried to use a drop bolt on a pair of Mono Planer brakes but while the hole is OK the bolt isn't long enough for the wiser arms.
I tried to use a drop bolt on a pair of Mono Planer brakes but while the hole is OK the bolt isn't long enough for the wiser arms.
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tiger1964 Exactly what brakes are we talking about? You mention brakes "newer then Record" but which ones?
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