Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

How hard is it to strip seatpost collar screw?

Search
Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

How hard is it to strip seatpost collar screw?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-21-11, 06:51 PM
  #1  
todayilearned
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
todayilearned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 462
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
How hard is it to strip seatpost collar screw?

So ~5 miles into my ride today I needed to adjust my seatpost a bit higher. Unscrewed it, adjusted the seatpost height and then tried to screw it back on but it started turning.

Took out the screw and saw this:



The collar says 5Nm which is ~45in*lb. Having installed my stem using a torque wrench at 5Nm I'm sure there is NO WAY I was near that.
If I had put too much torque on it wouldn't it have gone further or damaged the seatpost before doing this?

Before I contact the manufactuer I'm trying to rule out error on my part. What do you guys think?
todayilearned is offline  
Old 10-21-11, 07:53 PM
  #2  
DScott
It's ALL base...
 
DScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 6,716
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Probably user error. Maye due to repeated tightening over time, too.

I say this because 45 in-lb is about 3.5 foot pounds, or the equivalent of 3.5 lb force on a lever 12" long. That's not a whole lot of force.

However, I personally crank on the seatpost bolt until it feels tight, and it's probably way above that spec. It is a collar type seat post bolt, maybe that's different.

What kind of a seatpost bolt setup is that? I'd think it would be easy to strip the bolt if it had a steel barrel nut like that, instead of screwing into an alu. alloy collar...
DScott is offline  
Old 10-21-11, 08:07 PM
  #3  
climber7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: New England
Posts: 797

Bikes: 2010 Jamis Xenith Comp

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by DScott
I say this because 45 in-lb is about 3.5 foot pounds, or the equivalent of 3.5 lb force on a lever 12" long. That's not a whole lot of force.
yeah, but an allen key is maybe 2 inches, so we're talking 20-25 lbs of force. if you torque something to 5 Nm with a torque wrench and then test it with an allen key, it's pretty darn tight. it'd be tough to go over that if you were being at all careful.

i can't really tell from that picture how the setup works, though, so it's hard to know what happened.
climber7 is offline  
Old 10-21-11, 08:24 PM
  #4  
urbanknight
Over the hill
 
urbanknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 24,376

Bikes: Giant Defy, Giant Revolt

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 998 Post(s)
Liked 1,206 Times in 692 Posts
I've done it with one of those tri allen wrenches before.
__________________
It's like riding a bicycle
urbanknight is offline  
Old 10-21-11, 09:05 PM
  #5  
caphits
Senior Member
 
caphits's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 179

Bikes: 2006 DBR Podium 2

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I didn't strip threads, but I did break the seatpost collar.
caphits is offline  
Old 10-21-11, 09:16 PM
  #6  
DScott
It's ALL base...
 
DScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 6,716
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
The pic is pretty telling, really. Unless the screw is made of pot-metal derived from the factory slave children's leg-braces and crutches, it can only be stripped via over-torqueing. Work on stuff long enough, you'll do it, too.
DScott is offline  
Old 10-21-11, 09:16 PM
  #7  
wkg
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,153
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
This happens. Take it to the shop where you bought your bike or a local shop that is a distributor for that manufacturer and have them submit a warranty claim.
wkg is offline  
Old 10-21-11, 10:32 PM
  #8  
todayilearned
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
todayilearned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 462
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
On my other bikes I've put on quite a bit more torque and they have held up just fine. The only reason I'm questioning this is because the seatpost was still wiggling side to side when I got it this tight...

Originally Posted by wkg
This happens. Take it to the shop where you bought your bike or a local shop that is a distributor for that manufacturer and have them submit a warranty claim.
It's on my BMC... I guess CC will help me out?
todayilearned is offline  
Old 10-22-11, 12:25 AM
  #9  
Commodus
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Burnaby, BC
Posts: 4,144
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
You're going to warranty a $10 collar?

Go to LBS. Buy collar. Install. Ride bike.

Try not to be so ham-fisted this time. Unless you're a millwright, then I guess you can't help it.
- just kidding. some collars suck, don't sweat it.
Commodus is offline  
Old 10-22-11, 12:34 AM
  #10  
AlexZ
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Huntington Beach
Posts: 493
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by commodus
you're going to warranty a $10 collar?

Go to lbs. Buy collar. Install. Ride bike.

.
^^^ this !!! ^^^
AlexZ is offline  
Old 10-22-11, 12:42 AM
  #11  
todayilearned
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
todayilearned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 462
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Didn't know they only costed $10.

What's a good collar to get?
todayilearned is offline  
Old 10-22-11, 06:52 AM
  #12  
rogerstg
Fred-ish
 
rogerstg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 1,800
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by todayilearned
Didn't know they only costed $10.

What's a good collar to get?
Whatever fits. No need to over analyze this.
rogerstg is offline  
Old 10-22-11, 07:04 AM
  #13  
jdon
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,243
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 343 Post(s)
Liked 15 Times in 9 Posts
That bolt (not a screw) was cross threaded on installation. Replace it and the nut.
jdon is offline  
Old 10-22-11, 07:15 AM
  #14  
DropDeadFred
Senior Member
 
DropDeadFred's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 4,429

Bikes: 2013 orca

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
at least its not stuck, and the head didn't round out! you can easily replace the collar.
DropDeadFred is offline  
Old 10-22-11, 07:16 AM
  #15  
DropDeadFred
Senior Member
 
DropDeadFred's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 4,429

Bikes: 2013 orca

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
[QUOTE=todayilearned;13398555]Didn't know they only costed $10.

/QUOTE]

wut
DropDeadFred is offline  
Old 10-22-11, 07:31 AM
  #16  
Yotsko
Senior Member
 
Yotsko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Eastern NC
Posts: 433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Not too hard...I've done it on my mountain bike 5 minutes before loading up to ride. But on the bright side, I'm pretty sure I'm the ONLY dude within a 100 miles that has campy comps on a mountain bike. That's the only one the lbs had on hand to replace the one I broke...
Yotsko is offline  
Old 10-22-11, 07:36 AM
  #17  
Grasschopper
He drop me
 
Grasschopper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Central PA
Posts: 11,664

Bikes: '03 Marin Mill Valley, '02 Eddy Merckx Corsa 0.1, '12 Giant Defy Advance, '20 Giant Revolt 1, '20 Giant Defy Advanced Pro 1, some random 6KU fixie

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 138 Post(s)
Liked 12 Times in 9 Posts
Here you go https://fairwheelbikes.com/tune-wurge...ar-p-2911.html



That's definitely the one you need.

Or maybe this one.

__________________
The views expressed by this poster do not reflect the views of BikeForums.net.
Grasschopper is offline  
Old 10-22-11, 08:22 AM
  #18  
DScott
It's ALL base...
 
DScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 6,716
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by todayilearned
Didn't know they only costed $10.

What's a good collar to get?
Honestly, get the correct one that fits your frame. There are different sizes and styles, depending. I'm used to the collar style, not sure what kind of mechanism that uses a barrel nut like that.

What's that from?
DScott is offline  
Old 10-22-11, 09:52 AM
  #19  
daven1986
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 2,324
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by caphits
I didn't strip threads, but I did break the seatpost collar.
Same! My next seat collar I bought was more sturdy!
daven1986 is offline  
Old 10-22-11, 11:40 AM
  #20  
mmmdonuts
Gluteus Enormus
 
mmmdonuts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 2,245

Bikes: Yes

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by DScott
Honestly, get the correct one that fits your frame. There are different sizes and styles, depending. I'm used to the collar style, not sure what kind of mechanism that uses a barrel nut like that.

What's that from?
Sort of like this. I have the same kind.

mmmdonuts is offline  
Old 10-22-11, 01:32 PM
  #21  
todayilearned
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
todayilearned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 462
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
[QUOTE=DropDeadFred;13398960]
Originally Posted by todayilearned
Didn't know they only costed $10.

/QUOTE]

wut
It was a long day... shut up.

---

Can I use one of those clamp style collars or is that only for MTBs?

Seatpost is 31.6 so I should be getting a colla a bit bigger than that correct?
todayilearned is offline  
Old 10-22-11, 01:41 PM
  #22  
Commodus
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Burnaby, BC
Posts: 4,144
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
You gotta get the right one for the frame. It doesn't necessarily correlate with the seat post size. Take in the broken one to match it up is maybe best.

Mine are all 29.8s, but yours is probably 35mm.
Commodus is offline  
Old 10-23-11, 04:47 AM
  #23  
zigmeister
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 898
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
Easily, I hit 7-8nm on my bike several times with a TW1 torque wrench, it finally went, pop! Got another collar, I don't go over 4-5nm now. All it good.
zigmeister is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
BikeForums.
Road Cycling
23
08-24-14 06:05 PM
hubcyclist
Bicycle Mechanics
6
07-25-14 02:24 PM
Isaiahc72
Bicycle Mechanics
4
02-18-14 04:15 PM
ILUVUK
Bicycle Mechanics
13
08-10-13 12:58 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.