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Old 08-17-20, 03:22 AM
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Ordered my second pair. AR56CO3 rims. 3k matte, no holes, and graphene grooved brake track.

Not on their website, but you can ask for them 56mm deep 28mm wide.
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Old 08-17-20, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by deepakvrao View Post
Ordered my second pair. AR56CO3 rims. 3k matte, no holes, and graphene grooved brake track.
Rim brakes? Have you atleast graduated to round wheels or still using square ones?
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Old 08-17-20, 09:28 AM
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So, not sure if I can source the famous 'black prince' pads. How many of you use the LB blue pads and are happy with them? I never ride in rain. This is for dry.

Looking at you guadzilla for the inability to source the swisstop.

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Old 08-17-20, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by deepakvrao View Post

Not on their website, but you can ask for them 56mm deep 28mm wide.
I wish I knew that when I ordered a set of 46s for a friend.

the wheelset shipped today(ordered 7/11) using the cheapest option.
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Old 08-17-20, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
I wish I knew that when I ordered a set of 46s for a friend.

the wheelset shipped today(ordered 7/11) using the cheapest option.
Five weeks from order to shopping? Wow. My previous wheelset shipped in 10 to 12 days if I recall correctly.
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Old 08-17-20, 03:49 PM
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I have a set of WR50s with about 800 road miles on them, doing well after some early truing and dishing. Crazy stiff if you like that. I should write a review, glad I bought them and lucky it was January not now. I’ve been riding Schwalbe new Pro One 28s and they’re just not tough enough for New Mexico goatheads. Also they weep and lose pressure, but I was tempted because they fit narrower than most 28s. Oh well.

Has anyone measured the width of Continental GP5000 TL 28c on the WR50s? I can just clear a 32mm actual width tire. Ideally they would be 31mm or less.

Any other suggestions welcome for a good tubeless road tire .< 32mm on WR50s.

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Originally Posted by Snaildrake View Post
Any other suggestions welcome for a good tubeless road tire .< 32mm on WR50s.
I don't have WR50s, but the new Schwalbe Pro One Addix TLE have been awesome. They measure out to their nominal width on a 19mm int width rim, so that should give you a good idea of how they'll measure on wider/narrower. They also have them in 28mm and 30mm, which is nice for those looking to maximize their frame/fork clearance.
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Originally Posted by deepakvrao View Post
So, not sure if I can source the famous 'black prince' pads. How many of you use the LB blue pads and are happy with them? I never ride in rain. This is for dry.
Looking at you guadzilla for the inability to source the swisstop.
Ack! Guilty as charged - but on it! Give me a week.

(Of course, the correct answer is get a disc brake frame, but you know that)
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Old 08-18-20, 12:21 PM
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Just picked up yesterday 8/17, ordered 7/17 from the global warehouse to Seattle, WA. Shipped using EMS - air to San Francisco and USPS to the PNW.

AR56 disc (glossy, UD, no logo, no holes), DT 240s EXP hubs, CX-RAY spokes, brass nipples. Spec'd at 1493g +/- 25g, weighed in 1518g (or exactly 1493 + 25, 😂 ).

This is my first set of deep carbon wheels. Looking forward to getting them kitted out and going for a ride!
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Old 08-18-20, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dur4ce View Post
Just picked up yesterday 8/17, ordered 7/17 from the global warehouse to Seattle, WA. Shipped using EMS - air to San Francisco and USPS to the PNW.

AR56 disc (glossy, UD, no logo, no holes), DT 240s EXP hubs, CX-RAY spokes, brass nipples. Spec'd at 1493g +/- 25g, weighed in 1518g (or exactly 1493 + 25, 😂 ).

This is my first set of deep carbon wheels. Looking forward to getting them kitted out and going for a ride!
Great gin selection
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Old 08-18-20, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dur4ce View Post

AR56 disc (glossy, UD, no logo, no holes), DT 240s EXP hubs, CX-RAY spokes, brass nipples. Spec'd at 1493g +/- 25g, weighed in 1518g (or exactly 1493 + 25, 😂 ).
“no holes” = less drillium = more weight. But you save that weight and then some if you don’t need to use tape
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Old 08-18-20, 02:28 PM
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Great gin selection
Thanks! Islay is a favorite vacation spot. The Botanist is a great gin that I prefer to London dry variants. It definitely gets overshadowed by the local Scotch. Although I am also partial to the whisky...

Originally Posted by smashndash View Post
“no holes” = less drillium = more weight. But you save that weight and then some if you don’t need to use tape
Yea, was a toss up on whether 24 dime size pieces of carbon or rim tape would weigh more. And obviously serviceability is a bit more difficult. My compromise was to go for the easier tubeless setup, and take the minimal weight delta of brass nipples to hopefully minimize future maintenance needs.
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Old 08-18-20, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PoorInRichfield View Post
Arrived this week.. Light Bicycle WR50 wheels at 1,354g for the pair as the photos show. They're a custom build with "Flyweight" carbon as I only weigh ~165 lbs and I wanted these wheels to be as crazy-light as possible. I had to have them built in China because I wanted the new DT Swiss 240 Ratchet EXP hubs and those hubs won't be available in the USA for who-knows how long.

For comparison, Bontrager Aeolus XXX 4 are claimed to weigh
1,455g and that's before adding the tubeless rim liner, not to mention that the WR50's have a 25mm internal width and the XXX 4's are only 21mm. After riding the Bontrager Aeolus Pro 3V wheels on my new bike this year, I love the wider rims when setup tubeless. I thought the wide-rim thing was a marketing ploy, but I am now a believer.

As for the finish on the rims, the rims look perfect. Obviously, I ordered the custom 3K Twill carbon which has a glossy clear coat.

I'm waiting on a set of 60mm valve stems to arrive before I put the wheels on the bike with Conti GP5000 TL tires. The wheels came with 70mm valve stems which stick out about a mile above the rim which bothers me





Is the 3K twill carbon available on other models? I'm interested in the AR35 or AR45 and would love this finish.
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Old 08-24-20, 05:55 PM
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Looking to buy some new wheels. Don't necessarily need them, but just want to change something on my bike. I'm looking at the 25mm wide 45 mm deep rim brake wheelset from Light Bicycle. I currently run Soul s3.0 wheels I bought from overseas years ago. They are aluminium and weight less than 1500 grams. I actually really love the wheels and they've been awesome. They spin forever and are super smooth. I believe the rear hub is a bitex as I had to remove the freehub recently to clean and relube. The pawls and internals looked almost identical to what I found on the bitex website.

That being said....if I had a new light bicycle wheelset built with bitex hubs, can anyone share their experience? If I go for the dt swiss 350 hubs I start getting into more money than I want to spend.

FYI....I'm 6 foot, 170, don't race, never ride in rain or snow, only ride on good roads, I like to ride fast ( which for me is averaging 18 o 20) and meticulously care for my bike.
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Old 08-24-20, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by smashndash View Post
“no holes” = less drillium = more weight. But you save that weight and then some if you don’t need to use tape
I suspect that the weight difference either way is tiny. But my new LB wheels don't have the spoke holes and I sure do appreciate that I'll never have to worry about a perforation in the rim tape causing flats which has happened to me several times, including on my older LB wheels.
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Originally Posted by Dcmkx2000 View Post
Looking to buy some new wheels. Don't necessarily need them, but just want to change something on my bike. I'm looking at the 25mm wide 45 mm deep rim brake wheelset from Light Bicycle. I currently run Soul s3.0 wheels I bought from overseas years ago. They are aluminium and weight less than 1500 grams. I actually really love the wheels and they've been awesome. They spin forever and are super smooth. I believe the rear hub is a bitex as I had to remove the freehub recently to clean and relube. The pawls and internals looked almost identical to what I found on the bitex website.

That being said....if I had a new light bicycle wheelset built with bitex hubs, can anyone share their experience? If I go for the dt swiss 350 hubs I start getting into more money than I want to spend.

FYI....I'm 6 foot, 170, don't race, never ride in rain or snow, only ride on good roads, I like to ride fast ( which for me is averaging 18 o 20) and meticulously care for my bike.
Others have had good experiences with bitex, but I've also had good experiences with novatec. Had 4 sets on bdop wheels for over 4 years and one on a LB set. They are equally inexpensive.
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Old 08-24-20, 09:04 PM
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These wheels sure are popular now. Jus ordered a set of WR45s for my Trek SL 5 from the North America option and looking at a 4 week lead time.
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Old 08-25-20, 03:35 AM
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I got to test the LB blue brake pads in the wet the other day, got caught in pop up thunderstorm on a 9% descent. The first squeeze of the brakes was unnerving, as in nonexistent braking, the second squeeze was more a drag squeeze and that was much better. The drag squeeze technique seemed to work best and I could have locked a wheel but didn't want to die testing that.
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Have you guys noticed that other than the AR56, most other rims on the LB page are now rated to a max of 60psi for hooked/50psi for tubeless?

That seems absurdly low to me. For a tire with a 28mm WAM, my optimal pressure is in the 80f/85r range for good tarmac - and that kinda dovetails with what Silca's tire pressure calculator says (which, in turn, is based on their extensive reach on total rolling efficiency, ie combining RR and vibration losses). Similarly, for a 32mm WAM tire, my optimal pressure is in the 65-70psi range. All tubeless, FWIW.

They said this was due to a tire blowing off the rim. What wasnt very clear was the circumstances which led to this -was it too narrow a tire (eg, 23 or 25mm mounted on a 25mm ID rim) or something else.

Leaving aside the argument of whether I SHOULD be riding at 65-70psi with 32mms, what do you guys think? LB is being absurdly conservative or would you not take the chance?
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Originally Posted by guadzilla View Post
Have you guys noticed that other than the AR56, most other rims on the LB page are now rated to a max of 60psi for hooked/50psi for tubeless?
Where are you seeing this? I just looked at a few rims, and 115psi was listed as the max for hooked beads, and 70psi for hookless.

Nevermind. I see where you found it.

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Have you guys noticed that other than the AR56, most other rims on the LB page are now rated to a max of 60psi for hooked/50psi for tubeless?

That seems absurdly low to me. For a tire with a 28mm WAM, my optimal pressure is in the 80f/85r range for good tarmac - and that kinda dovetails with what Silca's tire pressure calculator says (which, in turn, is based on their extensive reach on total rolling efficiency, ie combining RR and vibration losses). Similarly, for a 32mm WAM tire, my optimal pressure is in the 65-70psi range. All tubeless, FWIW.

They said this was due to a tire blowing off the rim. What wasnt very clear was the circumstances which led to this -was it too narrow a tire (eg, 23 or 25mm mounted on a 25mm ID rim) or something else.

Leaving aside the argument of whether I SHOULD be riding at 65-70psi with 32mms, what do you guys think? LB is being absurdly conservative or would you not take the chance?
I think you're referring to the WR rims, right?

What's a bit odd, is max tire pressure is usually determined in part by the width of the tire you mount.
OTOH, is this really any different than what Enve also has (see below)? Mind you, I never fully understood Enve either for the reasons you mention. However, note that I don't think it's recommended to put a 25mm tire on the WR wheels in the first place, which is the only way you'd have a 28mm WAM. So mounting a 28mm nominal tire on these WR rims would likely be over 30mm WAM, and that's what you should put into the Silca calculator I think.

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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
I think you're referring to the WR rims, right?

What's a bit odd, is max tire pressure is usually determined in part by the width of the tire you mount.
OTOH, is this really any different than what Enve also has (see below)? Mind you, I never fully understood Enve either for the reasons you mention. However, note that I don't think it's recommended to put a 25mm tire on the WR wheels in the first place, which is the only way you'd have a 28mm WAM. So mounting a 28mm nominal tire on these WR rims would likely be over 30mm WAM, and that's what you should put into the Silca calculator I think.

The ENVE wheels in the chart are all hookless. The limits that guadzilla mentions are low, even for hookless, but very, very low for hooked.
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The ENVE wheels in the chart are all hookless. The limits that guadzilla mentions are low, even for hookless, but very, very low for hooked.
I thought his 60/50 was Hooked/hookless? Either way, optimal rolling resistance and performance of a tire/road/rider combo isn't driven by whether the rim has hooks or not, right?
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I thought his 60/50 was Hooked/hookless? Either way, optimal rolling resistance and performance of a tire/road/rider combo isn't driven by whether the rim has hooks or not, right?
Here's not talking about optimal - he's talking about max. For hookless, the limit that he mentions is low. For hooked, it's exceptionally low.
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Here's not talking about optimal - he's talking about max. For hookless, the limit that he mentions is low. For hooked, it's exceptionally low.
Sorry, but I think he said his optimal was 80-85, but the max for the LB rim is down at 60/50 or somewhere in that territory. Neither LB or Enve are anywhere close to 80 psi recommended/optimal/max AFAIK for a 28mm tire.
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