Derailleur Adjustment Sequence
11-07-21, 03:03 PM
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I’m a bit sorry about that but I’m not totally responsible for dragging the train off the rails. I had lots of help.
If that works for you, go nuts. The issue is usually in the idiosyncrasies but those are usually few. There are a few front derailers that are different but the level of difference is fairly small which is my point. If you know about those differences, more power to you. If you don’t know about the differences, you’ll probably learn about them sooner or later.
Does your bike (or bikes) perform like you want them to? If so, you aren’t doing anything wrong. If they don’t, then you need to learn why. But that learning “why” isn’t all that difficult. For that matter, nothing about a bicycle is all that difficult to learn. Newer ones have more weirdness but it’s nothing like the stuff they do to cars.
I have been relying on the Park videos for adjusting my Shimano Derailleurs after replacing the cables. I have watched assorted YouTube videos when I wanted to watch someone adjusting some else adjust a Force CX1 derailleur. I know there are idiosyncrasies and nuances to each derailleur as well as everything in life.
Now this makes me wonder if I am doing something wrong.
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11-07-21, 09:05 PM
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11-07-21, 09:12 PM
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I am not one of those parade rain people. Debbie Downers to a man.
11-07-21, 09:43 PM
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...help is where you find it Stewart. I hope you find my contributions helpful, because we all need some help, from time to time. As closely as I can tell, the OP more or less helped himself, as the Lord intended us to do. But if it helps you to assume the conceit that you're the only one here offering advice to people that helps, then by all means continue.
I am not one of those parade rain people. Debbie Downers to a man.
I am not one of those parade rain people. Debbie Downers to a man.
And, yet again, what happened to putting me on your ignore list? You still don’t seem to be ignoring me.
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11-07-21, 11:35 PM
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You really do live in a fantasy world. I have never said I’m the only one here offering advice. I’m saying that you offer no advice. You have contributed zero to this entire thread. Contribute something useful and someone might find it helpful. Right now it just noise.
While the links JohnDThompson linked to are good, seldom do you need to “start from scratch” for either derailer, much less both. Far too many people start with limit screws when something goes wrong with shifting. Changing a crank might necessitate some adjustment but that is going to be a very minor adjustment and will only have an effect on how far the derailer moves inward or outward but has nothing to do with how the bike shifts through the gears.
A bit more information on what your bike is doing would be helpful but you really don’t need to “start from scratch”. That route is likely to put things even more out of whack than to fix the problem.
A bit more information on what your bike is doing would be helpful but you really don’t need to “start from scratch”. That route is likely to put things even more out of whack than to fix the problem.
Yea. Great idea if you want to really make a mess of things…especially if MLProbst isn’t “super experienced”. And how far towards “starting from scratch” do you suggest on going? Remove the derailer and back out all the limit screws then reinstall?
Honestly, even on a new install, there is very little to do in terms of adjusting the limit screws.
Honestly, even on a new install, there is very little to do in terms of adjusting the limit screws.
I don't usually repeat the advice I've seen in a thread. from others, if it seems like it might be a good place to start. Your usual practice is to jump in and tell everyone who will listen, why it is wrong, and how god has revealed the real truth of a particular operation, by speaking to you directly at the bike co-op.I get it, Stewart. As a true believer, you have a moral obligation to testify. Those Jehovah Witness people that knock on my door are basically good people too. I always talk to them for a while, even if I don't take the pamphlets.
11-08-21, 09:37 AM
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Well you were the one who was waving the flag. What happened to putting me on ignore. No one quoted me so you aren’t really ignoring me, are you? Oh, joy! I have an internet stalker!
You don’t give any advice. I just realized that you don’t know how to give advice, do you? You haven’t a clue as to how to fix MLProbst’s problem but that doesn’t stop you from jumping in and poisoning the well, does it?
I don't usually repeat the advice I've seen in a thread. from others, if it seems like it might be a good place to start.
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11-08-21, 11:25 AM
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As for my small contributions in the way of mechanical advice, I offer it from time to time, if I think it relevant. I try very hard to also appreciate alternatives, offered by others here, who also intend to offer help to strangers on the internet. I would offer that model as advice as well, but you have soundly rejected it before. And I can only take so much rejection in life before I tear up a little.
11-08-21, 12:12 PM
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...my advice at this point would be for you to put me on ignore. I respond to you the same way I talk to the Jehovah Witness proselytizers, out of politeness from a civilized upbringing, and a sense that they mean well, however misinformed.
As for my small contributions in the way of mechanical advice, I offer it from time to time, if I think it relevant. I try very hard to also appreciate alternatives, offered by others here, who also intend to offer help to strangers on the internet. I would offer that model as advice as well, but you have soundly rejected it before. And I can only take so much rejection in life before I tear up a little.
As for my small contributions in the way of mechanical advice, I offer it from time to time, if I think it relevant. I try very hard to also appreciate alternatives, offered by others here, who also intend to offer help to strangers on the internet. I would offer that model as advice as well, but you have soundly rejected it before. And I can only take so much rejection in life before I tear up a little.
In other words, ya got nothin’. You project so much that you could show “The Wizard of Oz” in 70mm Panavision and 3 strip Technicolor.
For someone who has twice now asked me to ignore them and said they are ignoring me, you certainly respond (with nothing) a whole lot. Please. Put me on ignore. Ignore my advice, I don’t care about you at all. You have offered nothing other than noise in every encounter we have ever had. I honestly try to ignore you but you seem to just want to butt in with your no advice all the time.
Finally, is there a rule that you have that Stuart can’t offer advice? Only “others”?
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