New, but inspired by vintage
11-26-22, 02:54 PM
#26
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 4,471
Mentioned: 102 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1635 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 823 Times
in
532 Posts
The top tube looks very close to being level on that bike, I just wonder why they even bothered putting in that little bit of backslope to it.
Last edited by Chombi1; 11-28-22 at 04:10 PM.
11-26-22, 03:13 PM
#27
RUSA #3100
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Oregon City
Posts: 836
Bikes: Yes
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 237 Post(s)
Liked 505 Times
in
181 Posts
__________________
https://utahrandonneur.wordpress.com
https://utahrandonneur.wordpress.com
Likes For fender1:
11-26-22, 03:36 PM
#29
www.theheadbadge.com
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,508
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2420 Post(s)
Liked 4,381 Times
in
2,090 Posts
Likes For cudak888:
11-26-22, 05:15 PM
#31
Senior Member
That's a nice looking bike, 67tony.
Last edited by Bad Lag; 11-26-22 at 07:00 PM.
11-26-22, 07:03 PM
#32
Senior Member
Likes For Bad Lag:
11-26-22, 07:08 PM
#33
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,143
Mentioned: 481 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3803 Post(s)
Liked 6,634 Times
in
2,599 Posts
11-26-22, 10:44 PM
#34
Thrifty Bill
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mountains of Western NC
Posts: 23,523
Bikes: 86 Katakura Silk, 87 Prologue X2, 88 Cimarron LE, 1975 Sekai 4000 Professional, 73 Paramount, plus more
Mentioned: 96 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1236 Post(s)
Liked 964 Times
in
628 Posts
As a collector of stuff for almost my whole life, early on the original stuff was an incredible bargain, where utility far exceeded cost. So buying the old vintage stuff was cost effective. In the early days, I could buy a solid wood, antique table, for about 25% of what a new crappy particle board table cost. And 40 years later, that antique table is still going strong, while the particle board product probably ended up in a landfill 30 years ago. It was a no brainer. Eventually, some of the nicer old stuff went up in price, enjoying a collectible premium, and got to the point that the price exceeded the utility value (depending on the brand, type of item, etc).
In the case of bicycles, we have not crossed that point. Many of us given a $650 budget could acquire a top of the line vintage bike, that is easier to work on than a lot of the new stuff, is more durable, and visually appealing. Heck, at half that price you can find really nice stuff in my area. It depends of course what you are using the bike for. If it is a recreational ride, for pure exercise, then the old stuff is damn good.
I have always limited my bike purchases price wise to no more than a brand new entry level bike. I only violated that rule once, with my 1973 Paramount.
My latest addition, a mid 1980s Stout. Sure, it has an eclectic build for sure, and needs some TLC, but it is a fine bike.
In the case of bicycles, we have not crossed that point. Many of us given a $650 budget could acquire a top of the line vintage bike, that is easier to work on than a lot of the new stuff, is more durable, and visually appealing. Heck, at half that price you can find really nice stuff in my area. It depends of course what you are using the bike for. If it is a recreational ride, for pure exercise, then the old stuff is damn good.
I have always limited my bike purchases price wise to no more than a brand new entry level bike. I only violated that rule once, with my 1973 Paramount.
My latest addition, a mid 1980s Stout. Sure, it has an eclectic build for sure, and needs some TLC, but it is a fine bike.
Last edited by wrk101; 11-26-22 at 10:51 PM.
Likes For wrk101:
11-26-22, 11:58 PM
#35
Senior Member
In case anyone was genuinely tempted by the $650 price tag, this model is currently listed at $600 on the State web stie. Probably Black Friday pricing.
__________________
I.C.
I.C.
11-27-22, 04:35 AM
#36
Standard Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Brunswick, Maine
Posts: 4,252
Bikes: 1948 P. Barnard & Son, 1962 Rudge Sports, 1963 Freddie Grubb Routier, 1980 Manufrance Hirondelle, 1983 F. Moser Sprint, 1989 Raleigh Technium Pre, 2001 Raleigh M80
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1293 Post(s)
Liked 933 Times
in
486 Posts
Likes For 1989Pre:
11-27-22, 08:58 AM
#37
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,693
Bikes: 82 Medici, 2011 Richard Sachs, 2011 Milwaukee Road
Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1946 Post(s)
Liked 2,004 Times
in
1,105 Posts
The future is 1X.
__________________
I don't do: disks, tubeless, e-shifting, or bead head nymphs.
I don't do: disks, tubeless, e-shifting, or bead head nymphs.
11-27-22, 09:58 AM
#38
www.theheadbadge.com
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,508
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2420 Post(s)
Liked 4,381 Times
in
2,090 Posts
11-27-22, 02:36 PM
#39
Senior Member
I often get messages from members here and on other sites about my old Telekom Merckx, asking me if id sell it.
Now I can just point them to this site and they can have a reasonable facsimile for a reasonable price
Telekom only used these team colours for the 1995 season so they can be hard to come by
Now I can just point them to this site and they can have a reasonable facsimile for a reasonable price
Telekom only used these team colours for the 1995 season so they can be hard to come by
11-27-22, 04:02 PM
#40
I’m a little Surly
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Near the district
Posts: 2,422
Bikes: Two Cross Checks, a Karate Monkey, a Disc Trucker, and a VO Randonneur
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 699 Post(s)
Liked 1,294 Times
in
647 Posts
IMHO it’s at nice bike at an approachable price with the benefit of a warranty.
11-27-22, 09:43 PM
#41
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Burien WA
Posts: 509
Bikes: Cannondale Synapse, LeMond Victoire, Bianchi Campione d'Italia, Kona Hei Hei, Ritchey Ultra, Schwinn "Paramount" PDG, '83 Trek 640
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 267 Post(s)
Liked 324 Times
in
210 Posts
11-28-22, 07:53 AM
#43
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Berwyn PA
Posts: 6,408
Bikes: I hate bikes!
Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 431 Post(s)
Liked 710 Times
in
233 Posts
11-28-22, 02:40 PM
#44
Le Crocodile
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Santa Barbara Calif.
Posts: 1,873
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 367 Post(s)
Liked 771 Times
in
311 Posts
I think it is a very handsome bicycle. That being said, I think it should be kept in it's stock state. As soon as you start "upgrading" etc. you will have exceeded the frame's worth (not monetarily, but quality).
Great commuter bike if your lockup point is relatively secure. If you see the video adds, they (State) sure make the bike seem fun. They are moving one step past the fixed gear craze, and trying to maintain the aesthetic, but with a lot more practicality/safety.
Looks really fun. C+V is the biggest pack of complainers that will never buy this bike anyways. Go back to your 20 something self. A brand new bike!
Great commuter bike if your lockup point is relatively secure. If you see the video adds, they (State) sure make the bike seem fun. They are moving one step past the fixed gear craze, and trying to maintain the aesthetic, but with a lot more practicality/safety.
Looks really fun. C+V is the biggest pack of complainers that will never buy this bike anyways. Go back to your 20 something self. A brand new bike!
Likes For Erzulis Boat:
Likes For RustyJames:
11-28-22, 06:22 PM
#47
Full Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 341
Bikes: Windsor TimeLine; Linus Gaston 3; Sears Free Spirit
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 43 Post(s)
Liked 99 Times
in
46 Posts
This is a very interesting bike. Along with Retrospec, Handsome, and Linus, State’s offering what appeals to me about classic bikes: Fun simplicity. Sure, they lack appeal for those who prefer to build up a vintage lugged frame with NOS or refurbished parts; and they aren’t high going to be cross shopped by anyone out to emulate the pro peloton.
But, for those of us who like the simple, classic look without having the space or inclination to setup a workshop and start building up an eBay find; or who don’t want the latest disc brake carbon fiber wonder bike, this State is wonderful. It looks good at a reasonable price and will give the joy of simple riding. These these bikes are an excellent proposition. I hope they sell well.
But, for those of us who like the simple, classic look without having the space or inclination to setup a workshop and start building up an eBay find; or who don’t want the latest disc brake carbon fiber wonder bike, this State is wonderful. It looks good at a reasonable price and will give the joy of simple riding. These these bikes are an excellent proposition. I hope they sell well.
Likes For rudypyatt:
11-29-22, 06:07 PM
#48
Full Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 341
Bikes: Windsor TimeLine; Linus Gaston 3; Sears Free Spirit
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 43 Post(s)
Liked 99 Times
in
46 Posts
The Handsome Devil and Fredward are similar, and they are available with IGH. No lug work, but definitely old school vibes:
https://handsomecycles.com/products/devil-road
https://handsomecycles.com/products/...-speed-bicycle
https://handsomecycles.com/products/devil-road
https://handsomecycles.com/products/...-speed-bicycle
11-29-22, 06:07 PM
#49
Full Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 341
Bikes: Windsor TimeLine; Linus Gaston 3; Sears Free Spirit
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 43 Post(s)
Liked 99 Times
in
46 Posts
The Handsome Devil and Fredward are similar, and they are available with IGH. No lug work, but definitely old school vibes:
https://handsomecycles.com/products/devil-road
https://handsomecycles.com/products/...-speed-bicycle
https://handsomecycles.com/products/devil-road
https://handsomecycles.com/products/...-speed-bicycle
11-29-22, 06:24 PM
#50
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Berea, KY
Posts: 1,135
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 360 Post(s)
Liked 323 Times
in
186 Posts
I enjoy finding an old frame somewhere and building it up. But, if I was looking for a new bike, this would be a likely suspect. I honestly have no idea how a straight blade fork rides but I have always liked them because the switchblade mountain bike fork was popular when I first started riding. I think it is a great looking bike.
__________________
Andy
Andy
Likes For beicster:
