indyfabz

I have ridden by the old homestead on which the real life person who was the basis of the character Jeremiah Johnson was born. His name was John "Liver-Eating'" Johnson, and he was from Hunterdon County, NJ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver-Eating_Johnson

growlerdinky

I barely remember what it was like before I had ever actually gone on a real bike ride, and wasn't just riding down to the corner market for bubblegum, or whatever you do.

a_d_a_m

This^^^ 100%

To the O/P, there are other benefits of cycling beyond losing weight. Ask most of us who frequent the Clyde forum and you might find that we are noticing lower blood pressure, better cardio ability, etc. - weight loss would be nice, but getting up a few flights of stairs without being winded is pretty damn cool, too, and something to be happy about if you've previously struggled.

rsbob 

In my 30s I weighed 155 lbs standing at 6’2” riding between 3000 and 5000 miles per year. People would ask me why I enjoy cycling so much and my response was, and still is, Because I like to exercise sitting down.

In my 40s I weighed 162 for years and only cycled about 2000/yr. and it felt like a good body weight, but could not eat unlimited calories like I did in my 30s.

Now in my mid 60s I stopped road cycling because so many cyclists were getting killed on the roads due to inattentive drivers and switched to hiking up men’s to lakes and summits with weekly mtn bike rides. My weight, after a three week trip to Ireland went up to 178, and I felt like a stuffed pig since none of my pants fit.

with COVID traffic levels came down in April so I started road biking again and man did I suck. Average speed was about 14-15 and climbing was a struggle and weighed 175. Now after giving it a good effort all summer, I now weigh 162 can maintain an average speed of 18 over 30 miles on flats and just about 17 with 1500’ of hill climbing. I feel so much better and enjoy getting stronger and rather than dreading climbs, I now attack them again, all while sitting down, for the most part. The best part is that I can eat a bit more and not put on weight. But then I never noodle either. I always push.

exercise is like anything, you get out of it what you put into it.

Hypno Toad

Sorry if somebody else did this, but I'm not going to read through all the pages of this thread.

The OP posted this:
Reference:
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-c...appeal-me.html

AlmostTrick

Then what is it?

I have always been slim and never monitored or restricted my calories in any way. In fact, I spent my younger years actively trying to gain weight because I thought I looked too skinny, to no avail. It could be this:

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...inny-gene.aspx

There are two others in my family, plus my grandmother who seemed to be in the same boat.

Milton Keynes

I totally agree. Cycling is the only form of exercise I've ever actually enjoyed, mainly because it's actually fun.

livedarklions

Not going to look for it now, but there's plenty of research that indicates that how and when one experiences hunger is largely determined by genetics. I have learned that I am basically always going to be hungry no matter how much I eat and, if anything, being inactive actually increases my hunger (so does extreme exercise but there's some compensation). I actually have to consciously decide to stop eating at every meal, if I wait for my body to tell me to, I will weigh about twice what I do now.

I've also learned that I need to be a pretty strict adherent to the "if you don't buy it, you won't eat it" rule when I shop. Buying some foods in quantity because they're ok in small portions just does not work for me. I can't buy a jar of peanut butter, for example, because I know I won't be able to portion control it.

livedarklions

Look familiar?

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...-right/252016/

If I remember correctly, in the book he talks about the pot bellies.

Erzulis Boat 

It's not the sugar content that's scary, it's the amount of fat and sodium that will do the endurance athlete in!

livedarklions

Well, when I'm doing my endurance athleting, I sure sweat out a lot of sodium. Pretty sure that isn't the real problem.

genejockey 

It's far easier to exercise self control over what I buy than what I eat, once it's bought. I can't count the number of times I've turned to my wife and said something like, "If we had any ice cream, I'd eat all of it right now."

wolfchild

No it doesn't....Sitting and balancing on a bike is too easy and doesn't provide enough stress and stimulus for the core to create adaptation and make it stronger.

wolfchild

Ascorbic acid is added to many different foods, it's a synthetic form of vitamin C.

rydabent

This is a forum where anyone can express their ideas. There is no rule that you have to buy into any of what is posted. Therefore calling the OP a troll and other names is not really very friendly or polite.

wolfchild

If you notice,..This thread is now few pages long and OP hasn't even responded yet. It's pretty obvious that his intent was to stir things up and create controversy. OPs post starts with body shaming people for having pot bellies, not nice at all....I myself don't have a pot belly but I know a lot of people who do and I would never insult anyone for how their body looks.

indyfabz

Neither is trolling.

livedarklions

Just stop. Ascorbic acid is vitamin C. What you said is the equivalent of saying sodium chloride is the synthetic form of table salt. Generally, vitamin C can't be added to dairy products because they interact chemically so that the vitamin is unstable.

livedarklions

Well, in this case he was expressing Grant Petersen's ideas

rsbob 

The bigger th belly the faster the acceleration on downhills until terminal velocity. (Just taking to heart what was just said above)

livedarklions

You could probably get the same effect by carrying a really heavy lock.

rsbob 

Like the 5lb Kryptonite lock I bought to keep my tandem from being stolen in Italy? What a boat anchor. Would probably make a good dog ‘wacker’ if the momentum of swinging the thing didn’t throw me off my ride.

ClydeClydeson

So out of a sample size of n=2, one sample agrees with your hypothesis and one sample does not agree with your hypothesis, and you think this proves your hypothesis?

Methinks you need to work on your data analysis skills.

kaos joe

Ahh, you beat me to it. He was a town marshal in Red Lodge MT, a place I've visited many times.

Liver is pretty high in calories, AFAIK.

genejockey 

Note also that terminal velocity will be higher, too, since it's a function of both mass and aerodynamic drag.