Does Cycling Have a Drinking Problem?
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It's been a long time that the quiet voices about the harms of alcohol have become a chorus shout. Especially the last 5 years the evidence is pretty overwhelming there is no safe dose of alcohol. Governments, many organizations are starting to get on board with this but it's kept mostly hush for the general public. But the studies that support this are numerous, come from different sources, are looked at in different ways, are surviving the top level of peer review in many world journals. For example one study of 600,000 people found having just ONE drink a day loses you about 6 months of life expectancy. This can be different for different people but wow that's a lot. I also saw other articles and studies how Alcohol has been considered a group 1 carcinogen by the Agency of Research on Cancer for over 20 years! This puts in the same category as tobacco, radiation and asbestos. You wouldn't want to be around any of those things even for a moment now would you?
When I started to see this maybe 4 years ago I quit and haven't had a drop since. One of the best decisions I made after marriage, having kids and my job/school choice. I don't miss it.
When I started to see this maybe 4 years ago I quit and haven't had a drop since. One of the best decisions I made after marriage, having kids and my job/school choice. I don't miss it.
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Saw this statistic on the PBS News Hour last night:
American adults get drunk 23 times per year on average.
And this tidbit, from the CDC (2010):
Excessive alcohol use in the United States costs every man, woman, and child $807 per year. Costs were due to workplace productivity, health care, law enforcement, vehicle crashes.
American adults get drunk 23 times per year on average.
And this tidbit, from the CDC (2010):
Excessive alcohol use in the United States costs every man, woman, and child $807 per year. Costs were due to workplace productivity, health care, law enforcement, vehicle crashes.
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It's been a long time that the quiet voices about the harms of alcohol have become a chorus shout. Especially the last 5 years the evidence is pretty overwhelming there is no safe dose of alcohol. Governments, many organizations are starting to get on board with this but it's kept mostly hush for the general public. But the studies that support this are numerous, come from different sources, are looked at in different ways, are surviving the top level of peer review in many world journals. For example one study of 600,000 people found having just ONE drink a day loses you about 6 months of life expectancy. This can be different for different people but wow that's a lot. I also saw other articles and studies how Alcohol has been considered a group 1 carcinogen by the Agency of Research on Cancer for over 20 years! This puts in the same category as tobacco, radiation and asbestos. You wouldn't want to be around any of those things even for a moment now would you?
When I started to see this maybe 4 years ago I quit and haven't had a drop since. One of the best decisions I made after marriage, having kids and my job/school choice. I don't miss it.
When I started to see this maybe 4 years ago I quit and haven't had a drop since. One of the best decisions I made after marriage, having kids and my job/school choice. I don't miss it.
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for some reason the establishment insist that everything negative in our society is related to drugs or drinking, i got an assault charge for a fight, and got sent to A&A like they want me to answer all these questions about drinking and terms i know nothing about,
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What were the questions?
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What I like is the arrival of low alcohol and low carb beers that actually taste good.
Michelob Ultra Pure Gold 2.5g carbs 85 calories ABV 3.8% Amstel Light 5g carbs 95 calories ABV 3.5%
Beck’s Premier Light 3.9g carbs 6 calories ABV 2.3%
Corona Premier 2.6g 90 cal ABV 4.0% - very popular
Miller Lite Lager 3g 95 calories ABV 4.2%
Heinekin Light 6.8g 99 calories ABV 3.3%
Heineken 0.0 Alcohol free 16g carbs 69 calories
Budwiser Select 1.8g carbs 2.4% ABV 55 calories
Yeungling Light Lager 3.2g carbs 99 calories 4.0% ABV
The Heinekin Zero is tasty but has 16 grams of carb. The Budweiser 55 has only 1.8 grams and so I switched to it. Top rated at this time is Michelob Ultra Pure Gold. the beer companies have invested greatly in producing low carb low alcohol beers and with all the competition the results have been excellent.
Michelob Ultra Pure Gold 2.5g carbs 85 calories ABV 3.8% Amstel Light 5g carbs 95 calories ABV 3.5%
Beck’s Premier Light 3.9g carbs 6 calories ABV 2.3%
Corona Premier 2.6g 90 cal ABV 4.0% - very popular
Miller Lite Lager 3g 95 calories ABV 4.2%
Heinekin Light 6.8g 99 calories ABV 3.3%
Heineken 0.0 Alcohol free 16g carbs 69 calories
Budwiser Select 1.8g carbs 2.4% ABV 55 calories
Yeungling Light Lager 3.2g carbs 99 calories 4.0% ABV
The Heinekin Zero is tasty but has 16 grams of carb. The Budweiser 55 has only 1.8 grams and so I switched to it. Top rated at this time is Michelob Ultra Pure Gold. the beer companies have invested greatly in producing low carb low alcohol beers and with all the competition the results have been excellent.
I am joking of course, but the boycott stands.
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/13/healt...ncy/index.html
It's not just the UK there a legions of other recent studies confirming this message. Very scary but the harm of alcohol starts at the first drop. If you're curious and would like to engage in productive discussion let me know would be happy to post a plethora of others.
EDIT: I see you're from Canada you may want to check out your government's new guidance as Canada was the first to come out and basically recommend ZERO is the safest starting this past January a few weeks ago
It's not just the UK there a legions of other recent studies confirming this message. Very scary but the harm of alcohol starts at the first drop. If you're curious and would like to engage in productive discussion let me know would be happy to post a plethora of others.
EDIT: I see you're from Canada you may want to check out your government's new guidance as Canada was the first to come out and basically recommend ZERO is the safest starting this past January a few weeks ago
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Systematic reviews on the risk relationship between alcohol use and the diagnosis of and death from cancer have observed no lower risk threshold (Bagnardi et al., 2015; Sun et al., 2020; Vieira et al., 2017; World Cancer Research Fund International, 2018).
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I am ten years sober, but I remember that when I drank, the first mouthful of beer would change my mental status, immediately. This is why I have no respect for riders who show up for rides with alcohol in their systems. Some paid rides actually promote drinking at rest stops.
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Most importantly you can see damage to health even from a drink here or there and the only dosage of alcohol where no damage is done is ZERO.
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I don't doubt that someone wrote this. I just think their conclusions are utter BS. Flawed research! If this was even remotely correct everyone that went to college and was in a frat house would be dead before the age of 30.
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OMG! I am behind 36 years X 23 times/year = 828 drunks and hangovers!! I need to get crackin! Always knew I was below average. 😪
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/13/healt...ncy/index.html
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN1I42H6
and on and on….
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Tell me you don’t understand mortality risk analysis, without telling me you don’t understand mortality risk analysis.
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