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Addiction LXXVIII

Old 07-23-20, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
There's the Caledonia and the Caledonia 5. The 5 has the internal routing and starts at $4300 for the frameset; wouldn't be surprised if it also had slightly better crabon a la the R3 vs R5.
I see.

ok, went back and found the 5. That's very different.

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Old 07-23-20, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by abshipp
Also looks like it doesn't have fully hidden cabling with the mechanical Ultegra complete.
Ew. Weird that they can route the brake lines but not the cables. Too much friction in the bends? Not enough space for brake lines and cables?
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Old 07-23-20, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Ew. Weird that they can route the brake lines but not the cables. Too much friction in the bends? Not enough space for brake lines and cables?
Generally I think only the Di2 cables can go fully-internal. It’s part of why the fully-integrated bikes are so expensive; there’s no 105 version.
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Old 07-23-20, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Generally I think only the Di2 cables can go fully-internal. It’s part of why the fully-integrated bikes are so expensive; there’s no 105 version.
No, I've definitely seen fully internal Ultegra mech - the Madone SLR, for one, pretty sure that I've seen a few others.
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Old 07-23-20, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by abshipp
"For your big, stupid rides"

That's really sweet, an aero bike that's advertised as able to take fenders? I wonder what the mounting method is, if there are hidden mounts on the inside of the frame or what. That would be incredible to be able to run real full coverage metal fenders, and if it looks like there's enough clearance in the front with the 30mm tires that you could maybe fit 28mm under them.
my cervelo has mounts for fenders integrated into the frame.
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What's a cm between friends?
Ooh, I get to twss WhyFi.
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Old 07-23-20, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
my cervelo has mounts for fenders integrated into the frame.
I assume they are threaded bosses?

I noticed that it doesn't have a seatstay bridge, did it come with a removable one?
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Old 07-23-20, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by abshipp
I assume they are threaded bosses?

I noticed that it doesn't have a seatstay bridge, did it come with a removable one?

Your assumptions are as good as mine. It didn’t come with a removable bridge. I just saw a section for fenders in my owners manual. I don’t plan on using them anytime soon.
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Old 07-23-20, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
No, I've definitely seen fully internal Ultegra mech - the Madone SLR, for one, pretty sure that I've seen a few others.
Hrm. I don’t look as closely at Trek as you. My guess is it’s a matter of the nature of the routing and whether Cervelo can accommodate gentle enough bends.
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Old 07-23-20, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
I don’t plan on using them anytime soon.
I feel a bit like a fool riding with them in the summer, plus the bike they're on is heavy and I'm slow on it.

I'm sure once fall rolls around I'll start appreciating them (and the bike they're on) more.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Generally I think only the Di2 cables can go fully-internal. It’s part of why the fully-integrated bikes are so expensive; there’s no 105 version.
I thought di2 was wireless
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Old 07-23-20, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
I thought di2 was wireless
That’s eTap
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Originally Posted by abshipp
I feel a bit like a fool riding with them in the summer, plus the bike they're on is heavy and I'm slow on it.

I'm sure once fall rolls around I'll start appreciating them (and the bike they're on) more.
Feeling like a fool and riding a bike are
​​​mutually exclusive. You're riding your bike for your pleasure. Who gives a **** what anyone else thinks



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Old 07-23-20, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
I thought di2 was wireless
You might be right in another few months, but that's not the case right now.
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Following one's train of thought can lead to odd places. It's nice to have a safe place to do it.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Hrm. I don’t look as closely at Trek as you. My guess is it’s a matter of the nature of the routing and whether Cervelo can accommodate gentle enough bends.
My goodness I just read through the installation instructions for the 2019 Madone - maybe if I got a fully integrated bike it would cure my incessant parts swapping

Interesting to see that the direct mount rim brakes are roller cams! Very clever ones at that.
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Old 07-23-20, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Another thread reminded me of the temptation to MUP race this morning - it truly was a test. Some guy on a Motobecane with aero bars and a flappy jersey made a show of passing me while I was noodling along in z1. Well, I think that he tried to give me the look, but maybe I'm projecting. In any event, if ever there was a prime candidate for a MUP soul-crushing, this was he. But I resisted and rode my ride.
Kudos on your restraint.

Was it a BikesDirect Motobecane or an old one, fabriqué en France?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
My guess is it’s a matter of the nature of the routing and whether Cervelo can accommodate gentle enough bends.
Yeah, I'd assume... but I'd also assume that if Trek can get it done, so can Cervelo or just about anyone else.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
Kudos on your restraint.

Was it a BikesDirect Motobecane or an old one, fabriqué en France?
Totally BD, it wouldn't have been nearly as trying, otherwise.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
You might be right in another few months, but that's not the case right now.
I hope so, but would not bet on it.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
"For your big, stupid rides"

That's really sweet, an aero bike that's advertised as able to take fenders? I wonder what the mounting method is, if there are hidden mounts on the inside of the frame or what. That would be incredible to be able to run real full coverage metal fenders, and if it looks like there's enough clearance in the front with the 30mm tires that you could maybe fit 28mm under them.
One of the First Look vids on YouTube says that it'll clear 34mm tires, so I would hope that 28mm + fenders would be possible.

Edit: hidden fender mounts, too.

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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
Feeling like a fool and riding a bike are
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You're riding your bike for your pleasure. Who gives a **** what anyone else thinks
Clearly you've never seen me ride.
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I just got home from a lunch ride. During said ride, I made a left with about 50 yards of room in front of a group of riders. Rode about three miles and had to stop to text one of my employees back. One of the riders caught up and asked me why I didn’t slow down so he could grab my wheel....

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Originally Posted by phrantic09
I just got home from a lunch ride. During said ride, I made a left with about 50 yards of room in front of a group of riders. Rode about three miles and had to stop to text one of my employees back. One of the riders caught up and asked me why I didn’t slow down so he could grab my wheel....

Weird.
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Weird.
right?
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