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Old 03-31-20, 02:21 PM
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Friction grip shifters not made any more?

Hello,

Are friction grip shifters made any more?

My front derailleur is impossible to index properly and the existing broken shifter is a non-indexed.

Bike shops don't have, amazon just has crappy stuff (i actually bought one marketed as friction but indexed, have to return it), ebay has some old ones but shipping cost exceeds the value.

thanks
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here's a large selection:

https://thebikeshopstore.com/categor...twist-shifters
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Originally Posted by ramzilla View Post
Are any of those friction?
I only see index so far.
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Friction thumb shifter? Cheap and simple. Here's a pair for $10 with free shipping. https://smile.amazon.com/Sunrace-SLM.../dp/B007QMJH86
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Index grip shifter for the front? 🤔
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Friction grip shifter for the front derailer.

It's easy to find friction thumb shifters and if I can't find grip for a reasonable price, will go thumb instead.

Prefer grip, nicer to use and matches up with the bike properly.

Index doesn't work properly, the bike was never designed for it.
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Originally Posted by user_1 View Post

Index doesn't work properly, the bike was never designed for it.
Should be dependent on your crank/FD/BB and not the bike. Sounds like you're using road cranks/FD on a MTB frame?
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Department store mountain bike, went from old SRAM MRX non-indexed to sram indexed shifter.

Original crank and gears.

Impossible to index properly - fix one thing by changing tension level and another problem shifting or rubbing pops up, gears may be slightly misaligned due to age or not standard.

Returned index shifter, have to use friction which doesn't seem to be made in grip style any more.
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Originally Posted by user_1 View Post
Hello,

Are friction grip shifters made any more?

My front derailleur is impossible to index properly and the existing broken shifter is a non-indexed.

Bike shops don't have, amazon just has crappy stuff (i actually bought one marketed as friction but indexed, have to return it), ebay has some old ones but shipping cost exceeds the value.

thanks
https://www.jensonusa.com/SRAM-MRX-Comp-Grip-Shifter
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I've had Gripshift for a lot of years (since '88) but I've never had the cheaper department store type. But every one of them have been index shifting. That's the only way they come. To be clear the front or rear derailleur do Not make it index, it's the shifter itself. So you must make sure the Gripshift is compatible with your specific deraileur. For example different deraileurs have different pull ratio even if it's from the same brand.
Or am I missing something.

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There are 3-position left gripshifts and 9 or 10 position left gripshifts, no friction that I know of.
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Originally Posted by user_1 View Post
Friction grip shifter for the front derailer.

It's easy to find friction thumb shifters and if I can't find grip for a reasonable price, will go thumb instead.

Prefer grip, nicer to use and matches up with the bike properly.

Index doesn't work properly, the bike was never designed for it.
What crankset and front derailleur do you have?
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The one I posted allows for both indexed and friction.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
There are 3-position left gripshifts and 9 or 10 position left gripshifts, no friction that I know of.
Every left gripshift I’ve ever across has positions on the shifter from 1 to 3 but they aren’t ‘indexed” like the rear. They “click” rather than index like a paddled shifter (Rapidfire or SRAM). Often they have almost as many “clicks” as the right side. I’m not a fan of gripshifters but they do offer a lot of trimming on the derailer.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
Every left gripshift I’ve ever across has positions on the shifter from 1 to 3 but they aren’t ‘indexed” like the rear. They “click” rather than index like a paddled shifter (Rapidfire or SRAM). Often they have almost as many “clicks” as the right side. I’m not a fan of gripshifters but they do offer a lot of trimming on the derailer.
This. Left grip-shifters might have many detents, but I've never seen one that's truly "friction". IIRC, the higher grade (brand name) Grip Shifts had finer detents in the shifter to allow finer front derailleur shifting.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
Every left gripshift I’ve ever across has positions on the shifter from 1 to 3 but they aren’t ‘indexed” like the rear. They “click” rather than index like a paddled shifter (Rapidfire or SRAM). Often they have almost as many “clicks” as the right side. I’m not a fan of gripshifters but they do offer a lot of trimming on the derailer.
Yeah, I don't think they've had 3-position fronts since the mid-90s.
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The original shifter i tried had multiple clicks so it could be trimmed.

All the new ones for 3 speed are 3 position. i bought a second one off amazon after having issues with the sram - was supposed to be non-indexed but it has 3 positions/clicks instead of being friction or having multiple clicks for trimming.

I don't know what crankset it has and the info off on the derailer is faded off. Likely cheap generic junk.
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Originally Posted by user_1 View Post
The original shifter i tried had multiple clicks so it could be trimmed.

All the new ones for 3 speed are 3 position. i bought a second one off amazon after having issues with the sram - was supposed to be non-indexed but it has 3 positions/clicks instead of being friction or having multiple clicks for trimming.

I don't know what crankset it has and the info off on the derailer is faded off. Likely cheap generic junk.
And again: https://www.jensonusa.com/SRAM-MRX-Comp-Grip-Shifter Indexed and friction with front derailer compatibility.
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Thanks.

The shipping to canada is too expensive, exceeding the cost of the item. I'll see if the product is available elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by dsbrantjr View Post
friction thumb shifter? Cheap and simple. Here's a pair for $10 with free shipping. https://smile.amazon.com/sunrace-slm.../dp/b007qmjh86
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I hate grip shifters and always replace them with thumb shifters. Plenty of cheap thumb shifter options.
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I hate grip shifters and always replace them with thumb shifters. Plenty of cheap thumb shifter options.
I like grip shifters especially for the rear gears- when they're available and work properly.

I will probably end up with a thumb shifter due to lack of availability of what I need - friction ones are few and far between.
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You should be able to find lots of old model 5.0, 7.0, 9.0, or 9.0sl left shifters on ebay. Many are new old stock. All are micro-indexed, which is what i believe you are looking for (10-ish clicks of adjustment)

I really liked the micro-indexing for the front. Always seemed like the best of both worlds to me (friction and indexing).

20 seconds of searching turned up a 7.0 ESP on ebay just now. $25.

Look around longer you can likely get one even cheaper.

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Maybe something from RIVENDELL?
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You should be able to find lots of old model 5.0, 7.0, 9.0, or 9.0sl left shifters on ebay. Many are new old stock. All are micro-indexed, which is what i believe you are looking for (10-ish clicks of adjustment)


How do you identify/search for them?

I only see two and they're from distant countries.

I'm in canada and prefer something that won't take 2-3 weeks to ship.
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