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Old 11-09-21, 02:42 PM
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Newbie questions

Let me jump right out and disclose that yes Iím a noob, and while I like (easy) trail riding, Iím riding to (1) stay in shape and (2) keep my legs strong for snowboarding and hunting.

All that said - I wiped out today, not going fast, on a soft gravel curve, and now Iím looking for a good gravel tire. Almost all my rides are on established trails that have som soft gravel spots.

Any suggestions? Iíd rather spend a little more and have fewer episodes like this, vs just grabbing something off Amazon that says itís good in gravel.

Second - my rear tire is 29x2.00. Iíve looked up tire conversion charts and donít find anything that matches 100%.

How much can the tire differ from what came on it? Would a 29x2.1 be fine? 2.2?

Should I be looking for 700x50? Based on what I saw I should be getting a 700x47C, but donít see that size offered.

Thanks for any and all help.
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Old 11-09-21, 03:01 PM
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Some info to start with: 700c x 50mm is EXACTLY the same as 29 x 2.0". There are 700c x 47mm tires, WTB makes one.
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Tire tread probably wasn't your issue for the fall. The issue is more that you are too noob to recognize when you are on the edge of a disaster. There are a bunch of other minor contributing factors we could argue too, but mostly you just need to recognize when you are on the edge. And know what to do when the line is crossed, because there is only a brief instant when you might recover and not meet your doom.
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Old 11-09-21, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
Some info to start with: 700c x 50mm is EXACTLY the same as 29 x 2.0". There are 700c x 47mm tires, WTB makes one.
Thank you

Since Iím replacing the tire, do I need to match the 47/50, or just the 700c diameter?

Looking at WTB Iím seeing 700x40 gravel tires.

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Old 11-09-21, 04:52 PM
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Okay ... I am a professional troll, hired by Bike Forums to give grief to new members ... but today is my day off ...

You crashed because you overestimated how much pressure you could put on the edge of the tire before the surface shifted. Better tires would just cost more .... it's like being on ice. No shoe is going to make ice not slippery ... unless you have cleats or blades .... but even skaters fall, and people crash on the most aggressive knobbies or even studded snow-tires. there are limits of adhesion and if you pass them you will fall.

That said .... your rim can probably fit a tires from 1.5 to 2.2 inches quite well .... 37 to 55 mm or so. The only thing you have to get right is diameter ... a 700c rim is the same in diameter as a 29" inch rim (neither are 700 mm or 29" in diameter ... that would be too easy .... ) For a front tire I tend to avoid square-edge designs, but in the rear they are okay. If you ride a lot of really soft terrain wider-spaced knobs are okay, but if you ride more hard-packed trails you would be sacrificing overall grip for extreme grip in extreme circumstances.

The issue, particularly off-road, isn't the tire's rubber---a softer tire won't grip better if the road surface is doing the moving. On pavement a sticky, supple tire will help you corner faster (and will wear faster.) off road, the issue is more tire shape and knobs/tread, and tire pressure ... if your tire is hard it tends to dig in deeper, and if you corner hard on soft soil with a hard tire it will tend to scoop out the soil and dump you low-side.

Not saying that you shouldn't buy new tires. .... but there is no magic solution for going into a corner too fast ... well actually, gravity and friction are the solution ... gravity pulls you off the bike and friction eats your skin.

Anyway ... tomorrow I am back on duty and if I see you post, I will make you miserable .... but for today, you got lucky.

(Just kidding about all that .... the mods get mad if I assume people are smart enough not to take me seriously.)

The bike stuff is pretty accurate, the rest is just noise.
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Maelochs gives good advice. We don't know what tires you are riding now but I agree that new tires are no substitute for more riding experience in the conditions you describe.

That said, I have Schwalbe Land Cruisers on my Rock Combo and like them for the mix of dirt roads, two tracks, and pavement where I ride. But I have still had an occasional wipeout in unconsolidated gravel when I misjudge conditions or loose my line.
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Old 11-11-21, 12:50 PM
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If your frame can handle the width you could probably go up to 2.5" on those rims without any problems. The frame is the limiting factor here. More experience will help with the handling no matter the tire size or tread pattern or tire pressure, etc. Lower tire pressures will spread out the contact surface and lower your ground pressure effect just like a wider tire. But you still need to gain experience. Riding is a great way to stay in shape for other activities and I applaud you for that. Good luck
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Old 11-11-21, 01:14 PM
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Don't change direction when you're riding through a slippery surface. And that includes gravel, mud, wet leaves, ice, oil, water. Take the same precaution as if you're walking through them.
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Another bit of advice - since you did title this "newbie questions:

Careful with the front brake, don't grab a handful suddenly. Doubly so when on a less than stable surface.
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Originally Posted by rediranch View Post
Iíd rather spend a little more and have fewer episodes like this
You aren't going to buy your way out of crashing.

Originally Posted by rediranch View Post
Second - my rear tire is 29x2.00.
What is the tire?

Originally Posted by rediranch View Post
How much can the tire differ from what came on it?
Impossible to say without knowing what the bike is.
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Old 11-11-21, 08:49 PM
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You lost me at needing strong legs for hunting lol
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