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Shimano tech v1.0 - worth taking a chance or waiting?

Old 09-03-21, 08:37 AM
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Shimano tech v1.0 - worth taking a chance or waiting?

The long awaited (well for me anyway) 12 speed Shimano Di2 has arrived. Nice. I see from the GCN video the Di2 setup is slightly different from the existing 11 speed Di2 setup I have on my bike. The newer Di2 has fewer cables and a dedicated battery for front and rear derailleur shifting.

Would you consider this version 1.0 Di2 technology, since it's the first time the tech has come out for 12 speed? In my experience version 1.0 of anything is kind of dicey. Witness the original iPhone not having cut/copy/paste functionality for example. In the back of my mind I also think the first version of Di2, with the external battery, had some issues. But I could be wrong on that. Anyway...

I know Shimano will sell a boatload of bikes with 12 speed Di2. My question is, are you better off waiting a year (or more?) to see how the 12 speed Di2 plays out in the real world? Or do you think the chances of having issues with the newer tech are minimal to non-existent?
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Old 09-03-21, 09:10 AM
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You really have a problem making decisions, don't you?
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If I were in the market (IOW, if I had the $$$ and the willingness to part with it), I'd take the plunge and not worry about it. They've got plenty of experience with electronic shifting and braking, whether hydro or cable actuated. The only thing that's v1 about it would be the communication between the levers and RD and I'm pretty confident that they'd have that pretty well ironed out (and that they'd work doggedly on it if problems did arise).
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Finally, we get a topic on BF that's not getting any discussion.
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1. This tech has been out for years and was ready before the last group was announced but the bluetooth interference issues kept Shimano from releasing it until they worked it out. It's been extensively tested.
2. Shimano doesn't really make a habit out of releasing something and seeing what happens. I can not say the same for all component manufacturers.
3. I wouldn't worry about whether or not to wait. You will not get these components without buying them on a new OEM bicycle for a Looooooooooooooooong time. Years. So if you were thinking of "upgrading" your current bike and you don't already have an invite to one of the pre-orders that only certain dealers are getting then you aint going to see it until 2023 or 2024....unless you buy OE takeoffs second hand.
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I would have no issue taking the plunge.
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Originally Posted by NoWhammies View Post
The long awaited (well for me anyway) 12 speed Shimano Di2 has arrived. Nice. I see from the GCN video the Di2 setup is slightly different from the existing 11 speed Di2 setup I have on my bike. The newer Di2 has fewer cables and a dedicated battery for front and rear derailleur shifting.

Would you consider this version 1.0 Di2 technology, since it's the first time the tech has come out for 12 speed? In my experience version 1.0 of anything is kind of dicey. Witness the original iPhone not having cut/copy/paste functionality for example. In the back of my mind I also think the first version of Di2, with the external battery, had some issues. But I could be wrong on that. Anyway...

I know Shimano will sell a boatload of bikes with 12 speed Di2. My question is, are you better off waiting a year (or more?) to see how the 12 speed Di2 plays out in the real world? Or do you think the chances of having issues with the newer tech are minimal to non-existent?
Nope. Adding an extra gear doesn't suddenly make the entire Di2 tech a totally new thing. It is just slightly different as you even said yourself. This is nothing like the original iPhone! More like moving from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8 if you want to use that analogy.
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Would you consider this version 1.0 Di2 technology, since it's the first time the tech has come out for 12 speed?
I would consider the first version of something g to be the 1.0 version.

There are significant changes for these new groupsets, but no they aren't the 1.0 versions of di2.
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