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Old 10-09-21, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
So originally it was either going to be a honda civic, honda hrv, subaru outback, subaru cross trek. The original plan was to spend no more than 20k. After doing research I realized that wasn’t realistic, but 25k should work.

I talked her out of the civic it’s just too small. Hondas are extremely hard to come by in my area, and the mark up is huge.

Well I stumbled on a mazda CX-5 so I took her to try that out. She loved it, but the price after all the fees and bs, was 10,000 over budget. We offered 28k cash to see if that would make a difference and she wouldn’t negotiate at all. ( I told my wife that wouldn’t work, but italians have this view of the world that is hard to explain)

Went to the honda lot next to test ride the HRV, and we quickly realized the HRV was not going to work. We’re not big on the bells and whistles but it has nothing, and to get some of the simple things the car was going to cost only a couple thousand cheaper than the cx5
She test drove a CRV and it was nice, had a lot of neat features, but was just boring. The gave us a quote and it was 2 thousand more than the CX5.

We will go look at subarus today but I think we will end up with the Mazda.


Since the car budget jumped up 10k it’s only fair that my bike budget jumps 10k right? I mean the S works tarmac is only 13k……..
That Mazda is a really nice car. It shouldn’t depreciate much very quickly if you take care of it. Think of the cost to own (depreciation, maintenance, fuel, etc.) rather than the initial cost. You are probably stuck paying MSRP though, as very few dealers are discounting anything right now. Dealer lots around us that were overflowing are almost empty.

Anecdotally, a local Porsche dealer recently posted a used 2year old 911 on FB that it recently bought to resell. Nothing special about the car. They were asking $20k over the original MSRP. When someone questioned that, they responded that they paid over MSRP to get it. It’s nuts. Before COVID, that same used car could be bought for $30k less than MSRP. My son’s three year old Mazda 3 is now worth more than I paid it when I bought it new.

As for the bike budget, get real. You know you’re lucky your wife is letting you get the Madone! 😜
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HGTV is a bunch of babies.

That said, ain't no way I'm mowing my own lawn in the rain.
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At least mine is threaded. Internet says plumber’s PTFE tape!
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For the record, I don't mow wet grass
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I think genejockey does and I know for sure surgeonstone does.
i find Zwift tolerable
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Old 10-09-21, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
took the wife test driving new cars today.



I learned that basically any brand car is going to cost me 10 thousand more than I wanted to spend.

And the used car version is going to cost even more.

Wife is not happy at the moment.
Are you trading anything in or selling an old car? That will help recoup some of the extra cost of a new car right now. Nobody is giving discounts right now off of MSRP.

I went to the Volvo dealer last week to check out the only V60 x-country they have (I have a thing for wagons) and they wouldn’t give a penny off. Most cars are selling before they hit the lot. Looked into an Outback and you’re basically paying MSRP and waiting for your car to show up on the lot.
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Old 10-09-21, 06:31 AM
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It’s interesting “in these times” that even a medium-ish cold forces one to fear they have Covid and go get tested for the protection of everyone else.

and by interesting, I mean irritating
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For the record, I don't mow wet grass
It’s not good for the grass.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr View Post
For the record, I don't mow wet grass
For the record and all eternity, I don’t mow grass, wet or dry, although I do buzz it off with a battery powered string trimmer every now and then.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
I'm not around golf courses when it's raining.

I'm not saying no mowing happens in Knox County on rainy days, but I rarely see anyone doing it.
It's not easy being Vol.
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I have my DotM meetup this morning, too. It's not a ride, but I always ride to it, if possible.
Dark of the moon?

Dork of the month?
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For the record, I don't mow wet grass
Same but don't tell vol.
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For the record, I don't mow wet grass
Same
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
So originally it was either going to be a honda civic, honda hrv, subaru outback, subaru cross trek. The original plan was to spend no more than 20k. After doing research I realized that wasn’t realistic, but 25k should work.

I talked her out of the civic it’s just too small. Hondas are extremely hard to come by in my area, and the mark up is huge.

Well I stumbled on a mazda CX-5 so I took her to try that out. She loved it, but the price after all the fees and bs, was 10,000 over budget. We offered 28k cash to see if that would make a difference and she wouldn’t negotiate at all. ( I told my wife that wouldn’t work, but italians have this view of the world that is hard to explain)

Went to the honda lot next to test ride the HRV, and we quickly realized the HRV was not going to work. We’re not big on the bells and whistles but it has nothing, and to get some of the simple things the car was going to cost only a couple thousand cheaper than the cx5
She test drove a CRV and it was nice, had a lot of neat features, but was just boring. The gave us a quote and it was 2 thousand more than the CX5.

We will go look at subarus today but I think we will end up with the Mazda.


Since the car budget jumped up 10k it’s only fair that my bike budget jumps 10k right? I mean the S works tarmac is only 13k……..
Daughter wants an HRV or the little Hyundai equivalent. First, she has to find an apartment in Seattle and see how much month is left at the end of the money.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
So originally it was either going to be a honda civic, honda hrv, subaru outback, subaru cross trek. The original plan was to spend no more than 20k. After doing research I realized that wasn’t realistic, but 25k should work.

I talked her out of the civic it’s just too small. Hondas are extremely hard to come by in my area, and the mark up is huge.

Well I stumbled on a mazda CX-5 so I took her to try that out. She loved it, but the price after all the fees and bs, was 10,000 over budget. We offered 28k cash to see if that would make a difference and she wouldn’t negotiate at all. ( I told my wife that wouldn’t work, but italians have this view of the world that is hard to explain)

Went to the honda lot next to test ride the HRV, and we quickly realized the HRV was not going to work. We’re not big on the bells and whistles but it has nothing, and to get some of the simple things the car was going to cost only a couple thousand cheaper than the cx5
She test drove a CRV and it was nice, had a lot of neat features, but was just boring. The gave us a quote and it was 2 thousand more than the CX5.

We will go look at subarus today but I think we will end up with the Mazda.


Since the car budget jumped up 10k it’s only fair that my bike budget jumps 10k right? I mean the S works tarmac is only 13k……..
I forget your situation but if you can, wait a year and it could be much better. I can't remember a time that being patient with a big purchase cost me and usually saved me $.
Free advice is worth what you paid for it...
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Dark of the moon?

Dork of the month?
Diarrhea of the Mouth?
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I forget your situation but if you can, wait a year and it could be much better. I can't remember a time that being patient with a big purchase cost me and usually saved me $.
Free advice is worth what you paid for it...
Agree with this, by this time next year they’ll probably be giving them away.
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Dark of the moon?

Dork of the month?
Reminds me of this classic. Prolly one of your all time favorites.


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Daughter wants an HRV or the little Hyundai equivalent. First, she has to find an apartment in Seattle and see how much month is left at the end of the money.
There is usually very little month left at the end of the month.
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Agree with this, by this time next year they’ll probably be giving them away.
Same with bikes.
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Daughter wants an HRV or the little Hyundai equivalent. First, she has to find an apartment in Seattle and see how much month is left at the end of the money.
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I forget your situation but if you can, wait a year and it could be much better. I can't remember a time that being patient with a big purchase cost me and usually saved me $.
Free advice is worth what you paid for it...

Well, wish we could wait, but it’s not suppose to get better until 2023.

As soon as the company announced the bonus money my car blew up, so we are down to one car.

My car will cost about 2000 to fix, but it’s not worth 1500. I don’t think I can trade in a broken car.


My wife just needs to decide what’s important to her. Not having a car payment or having something better than basic. She deserves more than basic but she’s also in charge of the money situation and knows what gets paid when and where. I’m a bystander.

I want her to be happy, and not to have buyer remorse.
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There is usually very little month left at the end of the month.
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Got that from a Country song.
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I forget your situation but if you can, wait a year and it could be much better. I can't remember a time that being patient with a big purchase cost me and usually saved me $.
Free advice is worth what you paid for it...

Well, wish we could wait, but it’s not suppose to get better until 2023.

As soon as the company announced the bonus money my car blew up, so we are down to one car.

My car will cost about 2000 to fix, but it’s not worth 1500. I don’t think I can trade in a broken car.


My wife just needs to decide what’s important to her. Not having a car payment or having something better than basic. She deserves more than basic but she’s also in charge of the money situation and knows what gets paid when and where. I’m a bystander.

I want her to be happy, and not to have buyer remorse, and if the cost to have what she wants is 6 thousand more, I think she should do it.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
Well, wish we could wait, but it’s not suppose to get better until 2023.

As soon as the company announced the bonus money my car blew up, so we are down to one car.

My car will cost about 2000 to fix, but it’s not worth 1500. I don’t think I can trade in a broken car.


My wife just needs to decide what’s important to her. Not having a car payment or having something better than basic. She deserves more than basic but she’s also in charge of the money situation and knows what gets paid when and where. I’m a bystander.

I want her to be happy, and not to have buyer remorse, and if the cost to have what she wants is 6 thousand more, I think she should do it.
Ultimately, do what’s best for you, don’t listen to us, everyone’s situation is different.

Did you guys try the outback? I’m a big Subie fan
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