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View Poll Results: Are you a weight weenie
Weight doesn't matter.
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My weight doesn't matter.
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My bikes weight doesn't matter.
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I have lowered the weight of either myself or my bike so that I could enjoy cycling.
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Are you a true Weight Weenie?

Old 11-09-21, 11:11 AM
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Are you a true Weight Weenie?

I haven't mentioned it here on the forum but it's not exactly a secret in real life that I have been working on obtaining a Rodriguez Bandito SL. I added the "SL" to the model name so that I could say it means "Stupid Light" as I fully intend to blow right past R&E's website posted "verified" weight with this build. My actual goal (edit: for the bike itself) is a UCI illegal (sub 15lb) steel framed disc all-road bike.

As I was researching & buying parts from the usual weight weenie favorites, I started noticing the real weight weenie options started having weight limits. Emails with the part manufacturers were coming back with the same response: "Yes you are at spec...You want the reinforced option. We'd be happy to build a special 1-off just for you."

"Well, carp," I though to myself realizing I was teetering right back into Clyde territory after many years happily in the safe zone. I guess the COVID-"19 (pounds)" everyone complains of & a healthy dose of complacency finally nabbed me too.

So I took the hint. I took a step, did what had to be done, buckled down, & did the right thing by removing the weight of 1 bicycle from myself so that I could in good conscience enjoy the bicycle I am building.

With the set up out of the way: How many of you here have taken weight-weenieism to such an extreme that you actually took the step to remove some weight (edit: to add bold lettering) from yourself, too?

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Old 11-09-21, 11:38 AM
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Back in the 80s I remember when the weight weenies started drilling out very component on their bikes. Things broke and they never finished the race.
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It was an accident. I gave up caffeine in 2000 (affecting my sleep) and with it, both caffeinated coffee and sugared soda. I lost about 20 pounds in 20 months.

Iím back to drinking coffee with caffeine but never went back to soda, and the weight has stayed off. About the same as in high school which is just where I should be.

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not concerned of weight, but am more attracted to personal preference regarding function, convenience, & physical size ie: bar or seat post mount... Interchangeability with other stuff & the ability to fit next to or within another item
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I have lost some body weight, but it has nothing to do with cycling.
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I Think I qualify as a weight weenie, having drilled out the tire levers, and ground to lighten the allen keys carried on the bike. I'm about 10 lbs over HS weight, so I only put moderate attention to that.

Your bike goal seems way out there. All-road to me connotes tires larger than 32mm- more like 40mm and up, so there goes your SL frame, and the Bandito claimed weight of 15.9 lbs is linked to photos of a bike without pedals. Cool bike and all, just sayin'.
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There are a couple of members here who seem to be fixated on the weight of every component, but I can't think of a more tedious and useless pursuit. I like to ride my bikes, not weigh them, and I know good and well that a few pounds, ounces, or grams won't have any impact on my enjoyment. I'll take durability over gram-shaving any day.
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I can get down to 190 lbs at 6'2" down from 205.
That would be ideal rather than spending $$$ on weight savings.
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Old 11-09-21, 01:26 PM
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I still think of myself as a commuter, so I have gladly added a little bike weight in exchange for a little comfort, safety or convenience.
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I thought the issue was body weight loss:

"With the set up out of the way: How many of you here have taken weight-weenieism to such an extreme that you actually took the step to remove some weight from yourself, too?"

So why the poll options about bike weight?

Poorly focused thread/poll.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
I thought the issue was body weight loss.
The poll choices and the following quote made me think it was about whatever weight your inner weenie wanted to discuss:

Originally Posted by base2 View Post
My actual goal is a UCI illegal (sub 15lb) steel framed disc all-road bike.
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Poorly focused thread/poll.
Agreed.
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Old 11-09-21, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by base2 View Post
I haven't mentioned it here on the forum but it's not exactly a secret in real life that I have been working on obtaining a Rodriguez Bandito SL. I added the "SL" to the model name so that I could say it means "Stupid Light" as I fully intend to blow right past R&E's website posted "verified" weight with this build. My actual goal is a UCI illegal (sub 15lb) steel framed disc all-road bike.

As I was researching & buying parts from the usual weight weenie favorites, I started noticing the real weight weenie options started having weight limits. Emails with the part manufacturers were coming back with the same response: "Yes you are at spec...You want the reinforced option. We'd be happy to build a special 1-off just for you."

"Well, carp," I though to myself realizing I was teetering right back into Clyde territory after many years happily in the safe zone. I guess the COVID-"19 (pounds)" everyone complains of & a healthy dose of complacency finally nabbed me too.

So I took the hint. I took a step, did what had to be done, buckled down, & did the right thing by removing the weight of 1 bicycle from myself so that I could in good conscience enjoy the bicycle I am building.

With the set up out of the way: How many of you here have taken weight-weenieism to such an extreme that you actually took the step to remove some weight from yourself, too?
I understand your question and also your frustration but no, I have medical problems but Weight Weenisium is not one of them ,,,,

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Originally Posted by Rolla View Post
The poll choices and the following quote made me think it was about whatever weight your inner weenie wanted to discuss:
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
I thought the issue was body weight loss:

"With the set up out of the way: How many of you here have taken weight-weenieism to such an extreme that you actually took the step to remove some weight from yourself, too?"

So why the poll options about bike weight?

Poorly focused thread/poll.
The poll isn't about bike weight. Bike weight is what prompted the body weight loss. It seems now that explaining my motivation & road blocks about how I came to this point was too distracting for some readers. Edited to clarify/ bold that the poll relates to remove weight from yourself after realizing removing weight from the bike alone was not the best way to succeed.

It's almost like the red text was skipped right over...
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I weighed myself and my bike on a bathroom scale a while backÖ realized we both needed to lose a few pounds. Bike got a carbon seatpost, carbon bars, and a ti flite. I lost 2Ē+ off my waist. Doing better.
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Originally Posted by base2 View Post
The poll isn't about bike weight. Bike weight is what prompted the body weight loss. It seems now that explaining my motivation & road blocks about how I came to this point was too distracting for some readers. Edited to clarify/ bold that the poll relates to remove weight from yourself after realizing removing weight from the bike alone was not the best way to succeed.

It's almost like the red text was skipped right over...
But a couple of your poll options address bike weight. I think that caused some confusion, although Iím willing to entertain the idea that at least some people did put in enough effort to comprehend.

In any event, back in my college years I lost 90 lbs. in 9 months through diet change and cycling.
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Edited to clarify/ bold that the poll relates to remove weight from yourself after realizing removing weight from the bike alone was not the best way to succeed.
The benefit of healthy body weight loss is given, so much so that it doesn't warrant mentioning - we know, we all know. IMO, only trolls and idiots bring up personal weight loss as if it's a novel consideration, while simultaneously pretending that shedding personal weight and bike weight are mutually exclusive.
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If I had SAG or raced I would care a lot about weight and aero.

Who cares if you bike weights less than 15 lbs if you carry 5+ lbs tools/tubes/food/water. Then another 5lbs of clothes/shoes/money.

To go from 20lb bike to 15lb bike is probably 5k (WAG).

I must admit there a few 3 to 5+ miles hills that I wanted to try and go up with only my bike/shirt/shorts/shoes ( no tools/water/tube/food/lights/helmet/etc.. )

As for myself I lost 1 to 2 inches off my waist and probably could use another 1 to 2 inches.
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The benefit of healthy body weight loss is given, so much so that it doesn't warrant mentioning - we know, we all know. IMO, only trolls and idiots bring up personal weight loss as if it's a novel consideration, while simultaneously pretending that shedding personal weight and bike weight are mutually exclusive.
...& yet so few do it.

They can be & usually are regarded as mutually exclusive. Personal weight loss is so often regarded as a by-product of cycling. Not as the cause or consideration of equipment choice in any area that is not the Clyde/Athena sub.

I admit to intentionally losing weight to use "better" equipment. Maybe others have too. I though it was worth exploring.

According to the poll results, I'm not the only one to upgrade one, the other &/or both in pursuit of better enjoyment of the hobby.

There is some good stories of weight loss upthread. Plus +1 to them, indeed.
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How many of you here have taken weight-weenieism to such an extreme that you actually took the step to remove some weight (edit: to add bold lettering) from yourself, too?
I am almost 52 years old and I've never been overweight. There is no need for me to loose any weight...
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...& yet so few do it.
And you're basing this on what? Your perception?

Also, accepting something is far different from actually doing it. Accepting that body weight is a factor in no ways obligates someone to lose body weight because they bought or want a lighter thingamajig. Sometimes you just want the lighter thingamajig because it's cool, but that doesn't mean that you're dumb enough to not understand that losing body weight is an option, too.

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They can be & usually are regarded as mutually exclusive.
You're either being intellectually dishonest or you don't understand what "mutually exclusive" means. Do you really believe that most people think that losing 100g from their waistline is *not* an option if they buy a new crankset that's 100g lighter than their current one?
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Yes, although between aero stuff and light stuff I'll pick the aero stuff. Riding fast on flat-ish terrain is more of my forte.

That said, currently trying to lose a couple of kilos and get under 70kg to improve my climbing. Also guilty of upgrading stuff purely to shave off a hundred or two hundred grams off the bike, wearing superlight kit and shoes and throwing extra bits out of my toolkit and trimming the excess bits with a knife. The mini pump is carbon fiber to shave off ten grams off the aluminium one... yeah, weight weenie syndrome 🙈
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Any bike that weighs no more than 10% of your bodyweight has so little effect on your climbing that unless you're a professional rider that is riding at 40+ kph (25 mph English) it makes no difference at all. I'm 77 and 6'4" and can't tell the difference on hard, long climbs between a 16 lb bike and a 22 lb bike.
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Iím willing to entertain the idea that at least some people did put in enough effort to comprehend.
Clearly I didn't, but I only have so much effort to give.
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And you're basing this on what? Your perception?

Also, accepting something is far different from actually doing it. Accepting that body weight is a factor in no ways obligates someone to lose body weight because they bought or want a lighter thingamajig. Sometimes you just want the lighter thingamajig because it's cool, but that doesn't mean that you're dumb enough to not understand that losing body weight is an option, too.



You're either being intellectually dishonest or you don't understand what "mutually exclusive" means. Do you really believe that most people think that losing 100g from their waistline is *not* an option if they buy a new crankset that's 100g lighter than their current one?
I'm not saying anyone should be doing anything.

It's easy to buy a lighter part. Many people do it.
It's easy to tell someone the best gains are to lose kilo's off themselves instead. Many people on this forum have said as much.
It's hard to actually follow through on that advice.

Thus far the poll results are better than half have done either the bike or self option. The comments indicate about half of that half have done or resulted in doing both.

I suspected that few in the "general" sub other than myself have lost weight for the sole exclusive reason of not breaking their bike. You seem to forget I had a rightful place in the Clyde/Athena sub for quite some time.

The comments section is brilliant for letting people elaborate on their answer. I was/am banking on it.

To your point: Not 1 single person has ticked the "My weight doesn't matter" box. Clearly the poll takers feel personal weight does matter.

Reasons total "weight doesn't matter" could range from a big guy on a 'bent to a skinny guy on a TT bike, or any variation thereof. Both of those cases aero trumps other any/all considerations. It's a fair & valid point of view. Aero unquestionably matters more.

Reasons "bike weight doesn't matter" could be ticked by people that feel an emaciated 12 year-old on a Worksman Newsboy is going to enjoy cycling just as much as a clyde on a carbon wonder bike that needs a tether to keep the bike from floating away to the clouds. As noted in post #22 a small percentage of the total attributed to the bike may be unnoticable. The threshold for that is individual. The point being: cycling is fun & that persons ruling priority. That too is a valid point of view.

I'm seeing a lot of hand-wringing from you.
Do as I say, not as I do, maybe? Interesting. 🧐

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Do these panniers make my bike look big?


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