For the love of English 3 speeds...
10-03-21, 11:24 AM
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My most recent project, sympathetic restoration of a 1953 Hercules “King” QE2 Coronation model. A bit of a work in progress, as I still need a period/style-correct seat and propstand, but really that’s about it. I may need to repair/replace a slightly dented rim and of course it could use stainless spokes, and the oil filler cap on the rear hub won’t stay closed, but all that can be fixed over time. A bit unusual in that the other Coronation models I’ve seen have had painted fenders while this one has chrome fenders (though the others were also red and not black like this), and i am confident that they’re original. But it does have the downtube script Hercules decal with multicolor chevrons and white falcons, distinctive chain guard decal and headbadge, branded Hercules pedals and chainring (the features of the Coronation models), and original B Type 3 rear hub with Hercumatic shifter. It has patina and signs of wear expected for a nearly 70-year old, well-used bike, but appeals to my interest in unusual bikes not frequently seen in the States.
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Good evening ...Please, I need help identifying these hub internals. The hub shell indicates its a AM with date 50-2. The axle is 5 3/4 inch and not drilled through so it has single indicator. The RH ring gear doesn't have 24 x 3/16 balls instead it has a 14 ball ball cage. The sun gears and axle are totally different than any of my other AM hubs and have no timing marks.. Did they make different versions of this hub? Is it maybe another model internals in an AM shell? Thanks for your help
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10-04-21, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Rherdegen
My most recent project, sympathetic restoration of a 1953 Hercules “King” QE2 Coronation model. A bit of a work in progress, as I still need a period/style-correct seat and propstand, but really that’s about it. I may need to repair/replace a slightly dented rim and of course it could use stainless spokes, and the oil filler cap on the rear hub won’t stay closed, but all that can be fixed over time. A bit unusual in that the other Coronation models I’ve seen have had painted fenders while this one has chrome fenders (though the others were also red and not black like this), and i am confident that they’re original. But it does have the downtube script Hercules decal with multicolor chevrons and white falcons, distinctive chain guard decal and headbadge, branded Hercules pedals and chainring (the features of the Coronation models), and original B Type 3 rear hub with Hercumatic shifter. It has patina and signs of wear expected for a nearly 70-year old, well-used bike, but appeals to my interest in unusual bikes not frequently seen in the States.
10-04-21, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by brianhamp
Good evening ...Please, I need help identifying these hub internals. The hub shell indicates its a AM with date 50-2. The axle is 5 3/4 inch and not drilled through so it has single indicator. The RH ring gear doesn't have 24 x 3/16 balls instead it has a 14 ball ball cage. The sun gears and axle are totally different than any of my other AM hubs and have no timing marks.. Did they make different versions of this hub? Is it maybe another model internals in an AM shell? Thanks for your help
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10-04-21, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by brianhamp
Good evening ...Please, I need help identifying these hub internals. The hub shell indicates its a AM with date 50-2. The axle is 5 3/4 inch and not drilled through so it has single indicator. The RH ring gear doesn't have 24 x 3/16 balls instead it has a 14 ball ball cage. The sun gears and axle are totally different than any of my other AM hubs and have no timing marks.. Did they make different versions of this hub? Is it maybe another model internals in an AM shell? Thanks for your help
Nice looking bike there!
To me, a well preserved original bike like that is as good as it gets.
10-04-21, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by brianhamp
Good morning. I found information online and it looks to be a Sturmey Archer AR hub in an AM Alloy shell.
10-05-21, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by brianhamp
That is what I am hearing... Get this.. The Ebay seller was selling an AW Alloy hub. It was dirty with bad photo's and I took a chance and bought it .I dont have an AW Allow hub and wanted to get one.
It arrived as a AM Alloy hub with these internals in it. I have other AM hubs and knew this was not right. A lot of searching and I found out it was AR internals. Was I surprised. I always thought I would never get an AR hub...
Now I just need to buy an AR hub shell. Have you got one kicking around?? LOL!!
It arrived as a AM Alloy hub with these internals in it. I have other AM hubs and knew this was not right. A lot of searching and I found out it was AR internals. Was I surprised. I always thought I would never get an AR hub...
Now I just need to buy an AR hub shell. Have you got one kicking around?? LOL!!
10-05-21, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by gster
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10-06-21, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by brianhamp
Thank you. Very nice read... Something worth keeping.
"During the Second World War, the Raleigh factory in Nottingham was used for the production of fuzes. Bicycle production was reduced to approximately 5% of its peacetime capacity.[size=8333px]"[/size]
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
Sure hope you can get it all back together and on the road Brian!
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Need a tall stepthrough? Ladies' 23" Sports. All the cool kids have 'em (says the guy who has one). $100 is probably too much for this one given its condition.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...92254202656759
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...92254202656759
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10-07-21, 10:05 AM
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Would these English 3 speeds potentially fit under the description of "English style road bikes"? There is someone up north saying they're selling them for $10-$20,but there are no images, so I can't tell if they mean actual road bikes, or 3 speeds.
10-07-21, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by The Trashman
Would these English 3 speeds potentially fit under the description of "English style road bikes"? There is someone up north saying they're selling them for $10-$20,but there are no images, so I can't tell if they mean actual road bikes, or 3 speeds.
10-08-21, 10:35 PM
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My 1979 Sport on our lunch break.
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Originally Posted by jamesj
My 1979 Sport on our lunch break.
10-10-21, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jamesj
My 1979 Sport on our lunch break.
There's still room for some panniers on the back rack....
My late 70's Canadian made/assembled Superbe has those same
eyelets for the brake cable.
10-10-21, 08:48 AM
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Canadian Oddball
Here's one I've never heard of
A Raleigh built Eatons Glider..
Gordie Howe Special Edition.
Gordie Howe was a major Hockey Super Star in the
60's/70's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordie_Howe
Here's one I've never heard of
A Raleigh built Eatons Glider..
Gordie Howe Special Edition.
Gordie Howe was a major Hockey Super Star in the
60's/70's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordie_Howe
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Originally Posted by thumpism
Need a tall stepthrough? Ladies' 23" Sports. All the cool kids have 'em (says the guy who has one). $100 is probably too much for this one given its condition.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...92254202656759
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...92254202656759
On the way back to my car saw two women carrying it to their car.
It'll probably end up as someone's garden ornament.
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Originally Posted by thumpism
10-11-21, 01:41 PM
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My early 70’s scorcher that I have been using for the October 3 speed Challange. I think I will half report the number of times it has taken me to the pub...
10-11-21, 01:47 PM
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Continued*
It’s felt so good to drag it out of the shed, dust it off and put it back into the ride stable.
The other 3 speed being used is OT Shimano Hubed machine but it still has my affection. I got it to use while I put my 68 green Raleigh back on the road when I could ride again. Didn’t think I still had it but found under a tarp behind the house a few months ago when I was cleaning and purging stuff.
It’s felt so good to drag it out of the shed, dust it off and put it back into the ride stable.
The other 3 speed being used is OT Shimano Hubed machine but it still has my affection. I got it to use while I put my 68 green Raleigh back on the road when I could ride again. Didn’t think I still had it but found under a tarp behind the house a few months ago when I was cleaning and purging stuff.
