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Old 11-03-21, 07:14 PM
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it started with 2 sets of 370 ish for 2 mins and then 2 sets of 765 for 20 seconds I think.

I made it all the way to the second 765 and i’m not sure what happened. I turned erg off and finished the work out just making sure I hit the numbers I was told to hit.

In my best coach voice...

WTF are you doing?
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Oof, the sweet motorhome may not be available ATM:

They have an Instagram it’s @quirkycanary
So it looks like they may have taken the Airbnb down for now. I know they wanted to use the money they make from renting it to restore it since they originally bought it to be used as a family RV, and it broke down on the drive home. So they might be doing some maintenance on it right now or something.
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Apparently this is an Air BnB in Franklin, TN. These things were so cool looking driving down the road BITD.

I agree. There was a movie that had a fleet of black ones in it. I was a yute, and the name of it escapes me.
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In my best coach voice...

WTF are you doing?

Johns short mix. Ftp for erg was set at 258.

Now that I think about it not sure who decided that was appropriate.
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Apparently this is an Air BnB in Franklin, TN. These things were so cool looking driving down the road BITD.

Looks spooky.
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It was a neat store and the bike paths looked nice. Debating to to take my bike when I go pick up the rock hopper tomorrow.

Were they out of S-Works Epics?

#sad.

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Were they out of S-Works Epics?

#sad.


they had the s works carbon balance bike…….
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
Johns short mix. Ftp for erg was set at 258.

Now that I think about it not sure who decided that was appropriate.
No FTP test?

I’m pretty sure I couldn’t do those intervals, even adjusted for my puny FTP.
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Egg shame me too then. Two a day.
Stage III or IV?


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Originally Posted by MoAlpha View Post
No FTP test?

I’m pretty sure I couldn’t do those intervals, even adjusted for my puny FTP.

I did it on my first zwift ride. Garmin estimated my ftp at like 232 I think. I never got to do one with the madone before I left, so I really have not idea what my ftp is.


I will say my mouth hurt after the second 3- - watt interval. I could feel my pulse in my tongue.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
Johns short mix. Ftp for erg was set at 258.

Now that I think about it not sure who decided that was appropriate.

At this point in time, there's no reason to be spiking anything like that. It is going to grind you down so quickly, that any steady state ride longer than an hour, is going to kick you into the dirt. You flat do not recover from stuff like that in a couple of days, simply because your body isn't ready for that stress. Stress is an evil mother, and you have no idea you're upside down until it's too late.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post





Having these coming to the house. The store in fort worth got bought out. Going to keep selling specialized and bmc, but going to start carry trek and giant as well. Mellow Johnies gear will be gone.

It was a neat store and the bike paths looked nice. Debating to to take my bike when I go pick up the rock hopper tomorrow.
Hadn't heard that.

There are two stores, that one and Austin. Austin was started by Lance, and FW was owned by someone else. The Austin store carried Trek as well. I wonder if Lance's group now controls FW.

Take the bike and ride the trail. Head west and go to Benbrook Lake.

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Stage III or IV?


Cholesterol 127 mg/dL 0 - 199 mg/dL Triglyceride 53 mg/dL <=200 mg/dL HDL 59 mg/dL >=40 mg/dL Cholesterol, non-HDL 68 mg/dL <=189 mg/dL LDL 57 mg/dL mg/dL

This is straight from my medical record, August/2021
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Stage III or IV?


There's a pill for that.
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At this point in time, there's no reason to be spiking anything like that. It is going to grind you down so quickly, that any steady state ride longer than an hour, is going to kick you into the dirt. You flat do not recover from stuff like that in a couple of days, simply because your body isn't ready for that stress. Stress is an evil mother, and you have no idea you're upside down until it's too late.

So if I wanted to do intervals, using a power and time should I keep under 400? 500?

example 3 mins at 150 followed by 30 seconds of 350?

Im new to the interval thing. Obviously I have no idea what I am doing.
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Hadn't heard that.

There are two stores, that one and Austin. Austin was started by Lance, and FW was owned by someone else. The Austin store carried Trek as well. I wonder if Lance's group now controls FW.

Take the bike and ride the trail. Head west and go to Benbrook Lake.
I am debating, will see how the day plays out.
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I agree. There was a movie that had a fleet of black ones in it. I was a yute, and the name of it escapes me.
I remember that, sort of. A man convinces his family to get an RV and they are on their first trip and they are shadowed by 3 black RVs, who are the bad guys.
It seems like it was Peter Boyle but that's all I can recall.

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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
Apparently this is an Air BnB in Franklin, TN. These things were so cool looking driving down the road BITD.

Those things were powered with a Toronado drivetrain. 445 Olds gas engine and front wheel drive.
I worked with a guy who had a Cortez motorhome. They came out in 1963 and had a Clark forklift drivetrain. Front drive stickshift!
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Ergometer mode just “is what it is.” If you can’t do it with erg on, you can’t do the set.
Not in my experience.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
Johns short mix. Ftp for erg was set at 258.

Now that I think about it not sure who decided that was appropriate.
No offense, but that's too high.

If you're going to do some workouts on Zwift, do an FTP test first, you can start with the Ramp Test, and then don't go jumping in to the deep end. Maybe try some of the base-building plans until you get a better feel for things.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
So if I wanted to do intervals, using a power and time should I keep under 400? 500?

example 3 mins at 150 followed by 30 seconds of 350?

Im new to the interval thing. Obviously I have no idea what I am doing.
Right now, my intervals consist of: 12 minutes-4 minutes low cadence 47rpm@ 265-270w 1 minute drops, 1 minute hoods, 1 minute tops, 1 minute standing. 4 minutes hc 100-110 around 225w 1 minute drops, hoods, tops, drops, then return to low cadence position changes. 6 minutes rest, then 12' HC, Low cadence, HC with those same position changes. These were last night after doing squats, deads, and lunges starting at 4am. 3x5 heavy, (well over body weight) 3x10 70% Deads 2x5 heavy, 2x10 stiff legs dead lift 70% Lunges 1x10 each leg front, 40 pounds, 1x10 each leg rear 40 pounds, Farmers walk lunges 45 in each hand, 2x10.

tonight was easy 6x4' Over Under 90-100 rpm 15 second 300, 45 seconds 225 80-90 rpm. 4 minutes rest.

Tomorrow more of Tuesday night.

Saturday a fast 45. So a couple hours at tempo, usually 45-46 miles. This after the same weights as Tuesday, except add 5 pounds.

Sunday 3.5 hours Zone 2.

That said, I'm over my ftp here and there, but not for long. All I'm trying to do is do better on weights, and the bike is basically in the way of that. The bike will come later. I do this to hit the podium here and there. Not often, but anytime one hits it in the open classes, it's a good day. I work hard to be a mediocre bike racer. I rarely let on what I'm up to on the bike, simply out of respect for my coach, but one week out of many years should be OK.

You need to first find your FTP, true FTP. Train off of that, and train off of power. You also need to set base. You don't need to start breathing hard until January and February. You need base. You need cadence work. You need to be comfortable in the drops. I spend a 45 minute crit in the drops, and am pretty much OK with that. You need base. You need structure.
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Originally Posted by big john View Post
I remember that, sort of. A man convinces his family to get an RV and they are on their first trip and they are shadowed by 3 black RVs, who are the bad guys.
It seems like it was Peter Boyle but that's all I can recall.
I think so! Good call.
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Cholesterol 127 mg/dL 0 - 199 mg/dL Triglyceride 53 mg/dL <=200 mg/dL HDL 59 mg/dL >=40 mg/dL Cholesterol, non-HDL 68 mg/dL <=189 mg/dL LDL 57 mg/dL mg/dL
That could be good, or it could be bad.

Consult your doctor.
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You're going to be disappointed with your hillbilly preconceptions if you don't venture into the boondocks.
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Right now, my intervals consist of: 12 minutes-4 minutes low cadence 47rpm@ 265-270w 1 minute drops, 1 minute hoods, 1 minute tops, 1 minute standing. 4 minutes hc 100-110 around 225w 1 minute drops, hoods, tops, drops, then return to low cadence position changes. 6 minutes rest, then 12' HC, Low cadence, HC with those same position changes. These were last night after doing squats, deads, and lunges starting at 4am. 3x5 heavy, (well over body weight) 3x10 70% Deads 2x5 heavy, 2x10 stiff legs dead lift 70% Lunges 1x10 each leg front, 40 pounds, 1x10 each leg rear 40 pounds, Farmers walk lunges 45 in each hand, 2x10.

tonight was easy 6x4' Over Under 90-100 rpm 15 second 300, 45 seconds 225 80-90 rpm. 4 minutes rest.

Tomorrow more of Tuesday night.

Saturday a fast 45. So a couple hours at tempo, usually 45-46 miles. This after the same weights as Tuesday, except add 5 pounds.

Sunday 3.5 hours Zone 2.

That said, I'm over my ftp here and there, but not for long. All I'm trying to do is do better on weights, and the bike is basically in the way of that. The bike will come later. I do this to hit the podium here and there. Not often, but anytime one hits it in the open classes, it's a good day. I work hard to be a mediocre bike racer. I rarely let on what I'm up to on the bike, simply out of respect for my coach, but one week out of many years should be OK.

You need to first find your FTP, true FTP. Train off of that, and train off of power. You also need to set base. You don't need to start breathing hard until January and February. You need base. You need cadence work. You need to be comfortable in the drops. I spend a 45 minute crit in the drops, and am pretty much OK with that. You need base. You need structure.
thanks for the advice. I thought I would have a decent base by now but I don’t know anything.

So after I let my legs rest a bit i’ll do the ramp test and what not, until then I’ll just take it easy on zwift and cruise around.
Avoid mountains they have been killing me these past days.
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