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Old 04-24-21, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghazmh
I use a bell on my touring bike and hybrid. Both are the only bikes I own that’ll ever roll on an MUP. I use a bell and have experienced the following; pleasant waves, greetings like good morning, and thank you. I sometimes get yelled at to say something by old people who seemingly can’t hear the bell, completely ignored, and completely ignored by folks with headphones.
In older people, hearing loss begins with the higher frequencies, especially with men.

(I once asked an audiologist about this - I presumed there was something genetic about men that causes them to lose hearing earlier, and more severely. He shook his head and said, "No, it's just that men do more stupid things like shooting guns and playing with power tools." I thought for a moment, and agreed with him.)
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Old 04-24-21, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by fredlord
I have found that if it's not audible and/or not uttered early enough, then it doesn't matter how clearly it is enunciated.
Ditto for your bell.

I also don't generally ride on paths -- too many joggers and baby strollers to dodge.
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Originally Posted by Gresp15C
If you're as civil on the bike paths as you are in this forum, then you should definitely warn people of your presence.
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Originally Posted by wgscott
I try not to put myself in a position wherein I would need to deploy a bell. If I do find myself in such a situation, I find a simple "good morning," or "good afternoon", or "how 'bout dem Mets?" can work wonders.
To get to the huge cemetery where I do my "serious" riding unpestered by pedestrians, dogs and slow cyclists, I have to negotiate 10km of shared path. On weekends, and particulalry since Covid, this path can sometimes teem with moving obstacles. If I used your methods I would be constantly shouting and slowing down unnecessarily. I'd have no voice left by Monday.
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Old 04-24-21, 04:41 PM
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Real roadies ride on the road, not on some kiddie path. Geez!
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Old 04-24-21, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by wgscott
Pre-ozone hole, it was possible to purchase a small Freon horn, not unlike what people used on boats. I got one of these as a kid, and had an absolutely delightful time with it until my mother confiscated it.

I recently bought one of these, but haven't tried it out yet. It seems a bit less obtrusive than a conventional bike bell. You can turn it off when you don't need it so it doesn't drive you nuts:

Looks interesting. What sort of noise does it make?
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Old 04-24-21, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by fredlord
On the bike paths of Sydney my success rate seems to have been higher than yours. If my advanced warning(s) have gone unheeded, I automatically make some calculations/judgements: are they truly oblivious?; should I slow down?; can I safely go around offpath? Am I so close to them now that another dingding may startle them into doing something dumb?

Doing nothing isn't an option, because by using the path I agreed to share it.
If what I can afford is not satisfactory to make up for someone else's lack of assertiveness, it's not like I didn't make the effort. Cannot satisfy everyone's preferential ways.
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Old 04-24-21, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
POTD!
I have to ask again to have my incivility pointed out to me. Any rudeness from me has been unintentional.
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Old 04-24-21, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CAT7RDR
Real roadies ride on the road, not on some kiddie path. Geez!
I thought this was a forum for cyclists.
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Old 04-24-21, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Troul
If what I can afford is not satisfactory to make up for someone else's lack of assertiveness, it's not like I didn't make the effort. Cannot satisfy everyone's preferential ways.
I agree! A person can only do so much. I take issue with those who do nothing.
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Originally Posted by fredlord
I thought this was a forum for cyclists.
Just poking fun at the MUP-ETTES deciding whether to use a bell or not.
Usually a simple "Good morning" is enough to get someone's attention.
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Originally Posted by HD3andMe
That's easy.

Because bells suck.

https://youtu.be/K4N-1x0_-n0

p.s. Moisture v3(4?) is just as obvious as the previous cries for attention.
..... dang - now I really want a bike with a suspension fork...... that video made my month.
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When passing a person on foot, I usually say "On your left.", which clearly lets them know that I intend to pass on their left. They still move to the left rather than the right about 20% of the time. If I use a bell, it's about 50% of the time that they move to the left.
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Originally Posted by CAT7RDR
Just poking fun at the MUP-ETTES deciding whether to use a bell or not.
Usually a simple "Good morning" is enough to get someone's attention.
Maybe. If you're travelling less than 10km/h. And you shout it. And the recipient(s) of your message translate it into"get out of my way!"
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bell shmell, from I'm just gonna learn some opera tunes.....

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Originally Posted by HD3andMe
People who like to pretend that bells are a panacea are funny.

https://youtu.be/6E3BoAM7UF4
Never said bells were a panacea!
Holy crap, that's some serious obliviousness in that vid! Nevertheless most of them eventually moved. I don't have a problem with multiple dings and with using my voice when necessary.

In a perfect world, no one (including me) would ever be oblivious. This world isn't perfect.
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Anti-bike bell? Oh, brother.

Just use it to politely to make your presence known. If that doesn't work, either use your voice or sound your other louder horn.

Carry on. Don't let it ruin your day.
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Originally Posted by HD3andMe
People who like to pretend that bells are a panacea are funny.

https://youtu.be/6E3BoAM7UF4
Location?
This is reality. Does not matter the MPH, it's a constant slow-go-slow-stop-go.
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Originally Posted by daniel4
anti-bike bell? Oh, brother.

Just use it to politely to make your presence known. If that doesn't work, either use your voice or sound your other louder horn keep moving with caution.

carry on. Don't let it ruin your day.
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Originally Posted by fredlord
I have to ask again to have my incivility pointed out to me. Any rudeness from me has been unintentional.
Because you had to ask you wouldn’t understand the answer.

D-
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Originally Posted by mrv
bell shmell, from I'm just gonna learn some opera tunes.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehh8ZdIMMj4
I’ve ridden over the Brooklyn Bridge (where that was shot) than a dozen times. Every time has been on the Sunday before Labor Day. Completely packed with tourists. Both a rush and total insanity at the same time. Only hit someone who wandered into the bike lane once. He got a nice shoulder check.

As you can hear, a bell is basically useless there.

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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Because you had to ask you wouldn’t understand the answer.

D-
I'm sorry you feel that way. I hope I don't continue to lower the tone of this thread with my inadvertent rudeness.
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Originally Posted by fredlord
I'm sorry you feel that way. I hope I don't continue to lower the tone of this thread with my inadvertent rudeness.
Too late from the start.
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I seldom feel the need to say anything when I pass, even on a shared path. I see some riders use their bell every time they pass any person, regardless of distance, which I find wholly unnecessary and completely annoying.
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Old 04-24-21, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Too late from the start.
I'm sorry I've hurt you. Can you forgive? What can I do to make it right?
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