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record hub overhaul
10-12-20, 11:36 AM
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record hub overhaul
Poll:
You're overhauling a set of Record hubs which haven't been touched since the early 90s. In the shop you have Finish Line fluoropolymer grease, and automotive axle grease. Which do you prefer?
Edit: There was a poll attached. wtf?
You're overhauling a set of Record hubs which haven't been touched since the early 90s. In the shop you have Finish Line fluoropolymer grease, and automotive axle grease. Which do you prefer?
Edit: There was a poll attached. wtf?
10-12-20, 11:48 AM
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the poll is there. I usually use what ever i have available. right now i have a tube of "garage door grease" i am using. I am partial to Phil Woods grease though, but I am out. You can always buy the extra good Campy grease! I used to use that when i had Campy hubs and other non sealed bearings.
10-12-20, 12:41 PM
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I have a beat up Campagnolo container of grease that is still good and not separated from 1973. I only use it on Campy equipment, otherwise I use Phil Wood's.
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10-12-20, 12:47 PM
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Park grease is not terrible, but I am a long term Phil user.
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10-12-20, 12:59 PM
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Is the Fluoro grease also good for my teeth?
I still have some Phil left, so that's what I've mostly been using in hubs (& BB). Some have gotten some brand of Synthetic I picked up at the auto store. Headsets have been packed with marine grease.
I still have some Phil left, so that's what I've mostly been using in hubs (& BB). Some have gotten some brand of Synthetic I picked up at the auto store. Headsets have been packed with marine grease.
10-12-20, 02:28 PM
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I voted for the fancy grease because you say that you have some already. I used to love the smell of Campagnolo grease before mine ran out.
10-12-20, 02:31 PM
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Hmm. Never used Phil. I have always used axle grease, but bought this FinishLine stuff because my S&S couplers wanted only that. The grease that came out looks like that, only gray. Likely it was just fine. What does Phil grease look like?
I will say that these cones and races are the shiniest I've ever seen, and the first Campy I've ever seen.
The fancy grease seems so light, like there is no body to it. This is what concerns me.
I will say that these cones and races are the shiniest I've ever seen, and the first Campy I've ever seen.
The fancy grease seems so light, like there is no body to it. This is what concerns me.
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10-12-20, 02:33 PM
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I use automotive wheel bearing grease and it works well. I did a set of Record hubs with some high tech grease I used on my CNC machines( very expensive!) and honestly I could not tell the difference. I am not a racer so regular wheel bearing grease is great . I also use it on headsets and bottom brackets. Joe joesvintageroadbikes.wordpress
10-12-20, 02:35 PM
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I usually use Phil, if there is any roughness, I use axle, this goes for all bearings.
My first cup and cone experience was in high school, new Mizutani Super Seraph came with a beautiful "Mighty" Sugino Mighty Competiton crank.
Dumb azz me let the BB get washed out of the pathetic amount factory grease and nominally compromised the spindle and cups, replaced the bearings, set it up with thick axle grease and overhauled it every month for about six months, slowly increasing the tension each time.
It smoothed out quite a bit and lived on for another 25 years when it was stolen with the Raleigh Super Course it was on.
My first cup and cone experience was in high school, new Mizutani Super Seraph came with a beautiful "Mighty" Sugino Mighty Competiton crank.
Dumb azz me let the BB get washed out of the pathetic amount factory grease and nominally compromised the spindle and cups, replaced the bearings, set it up with thick axle grease and overhauled it every month for about six months, slowly increasing the tension each time.
It smoothed out quite a bit and lived on for another 25 years when it was stolen with the Raleigh Super Course it was on.
10-12-20, 02:43 PM
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Shag it, red marine grease, more impervious to water.
10-12-20, 02:57 PM
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Lowes sells white lithium grease in an 8oz tube for $5. Been using that. Reminds me of Campy, and it's thicker than Park.
10-12-20, 05:07 PM
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Fluoro.
Fluorinated grease is a miracle of the universe.
Fluorinated grease is a miracle of the universe.
10-12-20, 06:43 PM
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Whichever one is white. Nice feature to be able to see when dirt has gotten into the bearings. Generic white lithium is fine. Finish line will clearly greatly increase your speed though, for only an extra couple bucks.
I used to use campy grease BITD for campy stuff, but it wasn't silly priced. I've also used Phil and Park grease. Whatever, it's just grease.
I used to use campy grease BITD for campy stuff, but it wasn't silly priced. I've also used Phil and Park grease. Whatever, it's just grease.
10-12-20, 10:19 PM
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I want lightweight, low viscosity. And fill the chamber 25-30%. No grease oozing out after.
if you are building up for commuting- “waterproof” axle grease- and use disposable Lower tier Shimano hubs.
if you are building up for commuting- “waterproof” axle grease- and use disposable Lower tier Shimano hubs.
10-12-20, 11:46 PM
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You want a light to medium consistency grease.
So, stay away from some of the thicker greases out there like disc brake hub grease, or some of the red and tacky greases.
I'd probably choose your bicycle specific grease, whatever you have available. My preference is Phil, but I'll use what I have laying around.
So, stay away from some of the thicker greases out there like disc brake hub grease, or some of the red and tacky greases.
I'd probably choose your bicycle specific grease, whatever you have available. My preference is Phil, but I'll use what I have laying around.
10-12-20, 11:48 PM
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Oh, in theory you can oil your old Campy hubs. I don't know if anybody does that, but that is what the hole is for.
10-13-20, 06:02 PM
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Morgan Blue Competition Campa is nice and is kind of like the old Campy grease.
Rock n Roll SuperWeb is also really quality grease.
Rock n Roll SuperWeb is also really quality grease.
10-13-20, 06:49 PM
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10-13-20, 06:50 PM
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Same here (kind of). My brother uses the Phil grease (Valvoline?) and I've found it separating on stuff of his that I have overhauled. I still use my '70s Campy grease on my Campy stuff, especially hubs. I also bought a couple of 100g things of Miche grease from a place in Germany, but haven't opened it yet... supposedly the same as Campy. I know miamijim here swears by the DuraAce grease, but that just seemed sacrilegious to me... I also use SuperLube grease.
10-13-20, 07:32 PM
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My thoughts precisely. I would use the grease I have. I don't know what I have, and I don't know what you have, but if I had what you have, that's what I'd use.
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10-13-20, 07:39 PM
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Another vote for Phil Wood waterproof grease.
10-13-20, 08:37 PM
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Agree with the Phil Wood disciples
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10-14-20, 04:07 AM
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And Polyurea sounds like mixed livestock p p so it's gotta be good, eh?
10-14-20, 04:45 AM
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I've used Phil's for years for everything. Never had a problem with it. Never seen a bearing infiltrated with water using Phil's.
But Phil's lacks the buttery, cohesive feel of my Shimano Ultegra hubs with the original factory grease, whatever they use. Dunno if it matters when it's rolling. Hard to describe, but when I spin a wheel on the stand, hubs with Phil's grease emit the slightest "tink" sound of the bearings as friction heats up the grease. But not with the Ultegra hubs and factory grease. Might be lithium, I dunno.
I'm kinda tempted by Rock 'n' Roll's Super Web grease.
But Phil's lacks the buttery, cohesive feel of my Shimano Ultegra hubs with the original factory grease, whatever they use. Dunno if it matters when it's rolling. Hard to describe, but when I spin a wheel on the stand, hubs with Phil's grease emit the slightest "tink" sound of the bearings as friction heats up the grease. But not with the Ultegra hubs and factory grease. Might be lithium, I dunno.
I'm kinda tempted by Rock 'n' Roll's Super Web grease.
10-14-20, 05:25 AM
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This is really just Teflon in the grease. I can’t seeing it being a bad thing. I’m not an expert on greases, but with vintage Record in excellent condition I would be careful. Replacing cones and races is not easy, can’t just buy them at the LBS. But if genuine Campy grease is available, I’d use that if it looks and smells good. I use one called “Red and sticky” because ... the Advance auto guy was selling it to LBS owners.
