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Old 08-18-22, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I'd be totally OK with a flappy paddle Ferrari
Me too, until the first service invoice.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I just want a 360. With a stick. The one that was new when I was in college, as all awesome cars are.
Love the sound of the gated shifters.
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Originally Posted by t2p
Thanks - yes - Excel was another go-to back in the day

much better bar tape inventory - but still Cinelli cork ery limited

(maybe Cinelli cork now out of favor ?)
Cinelli is insufficiently blingy.
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Originally Posted by t2p
one of my old muscle car friends has a current Challenger

he likes this car so much he sold his 69 Camaro Z28 (yes - real - with 'DZ 302' engine)
I imagine the problem with owning a vintage muscle car - apart from how much gas they use - is the fear of it being damaged in an accident, because they've become so valuable. The Challenger is probably faster, definitely more comfortable, more reliable, handles better, has 'all mod cons'.
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I imagine the problem with owning a vintage muscle car - apart from how much gas they use - is the fear of it being damaged in an accident, because they've become so valuable.
Not to mention fear of it getting stolen. Wouldn't want to park it anywhere except inside a garage.
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Originally Posted by big john
Not to mention fear of it getting stollen. Wouldn't want to park it anywhere except inside a garage.
Like those pesky Baby Bike Bolts?

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Like those pesky Baby Bike Bolts?

Nobody ever stole my baby bike bolts.
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Originally Posted by big john
Nobody ever stole my baby bike bolts.
Too bad that classic thread is locked. We should be able to bump it, for old time's sake.
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Just got back from 4 days in Eugene, OR with my daughter for her orientation ("IntroDUCKtion") at University of Oregon. They move in on 9/23, and classes start on 9/27, about a month later than most of her friends (quarter system vs. semester system). This was our 4th trip to Eugene, and we always really enjoy it. Being that my daughter's dorm building is a little off campus, one of the questions has been about having a car. Advice we've gotten has been split. Some have said a car is unnecessary. Some have said it's a helpful convenience. We decided to provide a car for her.

She has also told me that she would like to have a bike - new project!! I have a late-90s Bianchi road frame that is the right size for her that I will build into a townie bike. Eugene is pretty flat, so a 1x7 (or 1x8, depending on what parts I have) should be plenty. Shifting will be either 7sp Grip Shift or 8sp Shimano XT triggers. A big question is tires. There's plenty of room in the back for 28s, maybe wider. However, it currently has a carbon fork built for a race bike, and has very little clearance. I might need to find a fork with a little more space. Being that it's the PNW, fenders might also be a good idea.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Just got back from 4 days in Eugene, OR with my daughter for her orientation ("IntroDUCKtion") at University of Oregon. They move in on 9/23, and classes start on 9/27, about a month later than most of her friends (quarter system vs. semester system). This was our 4th trip to Eugene, and we always really enjoy it. Being that my daughter's dorm building is a little off campus, one of the questions has been about having a car. Advice we've gotten has been split. Some have said a car is unnecessary. Some have said it's a helpful convenience. We decided to provide a car for her.

She has also told me that she would like to have a bike - new project!! I have a late-90s Bianchi road frame that is the right size for her that I will build into a townie bike. Eugene is pretty flat, so a 1x7 (or 1x8, depending on what parts I have) should be plenty. Shifting will be either 7sp Grip Shift or 8sp Shimano XT triggers. A big question is tires. There's plenty of room in the back for 28s, maybe wider. However, it currently has a carbon fork built for a race bike, and has very little clearance. I might need to find a fork with a little more space. Being that it's the PNW, fenders might also be a good idea.
Hope that'll take the edge off a bit.
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Our kids both had cars in college (high school too). It's really nice when you don't have to drive to the school to bring them home when they want to come home and don't have to drive them back. You just stand in the drive way and wave as you say, "Drive carefully." That takes 5 minutes instead of 3 to 4 hours or more each way.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Our kids both had cars in college (high school too). It's really nice when you don't have to drive to the school to bring them home when they want to come home and don't have to drive them back. You just stand in the drive way and wave as you say, "Drive carefully." That takes 5 minutes instead of 3 to 4 hours or more each way.
I remember those days. Mom's old Accord with the V6, moonroof, and leather, wasn't that sexy, but once it had daughter's full-length MC Escher-style butterfly decals on it and her tunes plugged in, it turned out to be a pretty nice ride.

This Spring we gave her the down payment on a Hyundai Kona, with AWD and a turbo and let her leverage the rest herself as an exercise in adulting.
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Oh, and Mojo31 it has become clear that Garmin has no intention of fixing the issue with their wind transducers, which Google shows has been ongoing since at least 2018. We are going to go with Raymarine and swallow all the labor for pulling the cable twice and installing a new A-D box that will talk to NMEA 2000. I will never buy anything from these people again.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Like those pesky Baby Bike Bolts?

Your change of "stolen" to "stollen" reminds me of a joke The Younger Boy made, about the line in "Pirates of the Caribbean". It was near Christmas, and we were shopping for special Christmas treats.

He turned to me and said, "Why is the rum gone?"

And held up a package this package...
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Oh, and Mojo31 it has become clear that Garmin has no intention of fixing the issue with their wind transducers, which Google shows has been ongoing since at least 2018. We are going to go with Raymarine and swallow all the labor for pulling the cable twice and installing a new A-D box that will talk to NMEA 2000. I will never buy anything from these people again.
Most of my friends refer to their Garmin with an adjective that starts with FU and ends with CKING. i.e. ******g Garmin.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Most of my friends who I ride with have bikes that weigh 16 pounds and fancy power meters/cadence sensors etc.

The Habanero weighs about 19 pounds, with no power meter or cadence.

Guess who is usually the first to the top of the hill??

guess who has 75lbs on you....
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Our kids both had cars in college (high school too). It's really nice when you don't have to drive to the school to bring them home when they want to come home and don't have to drive them back. You just stand in the drive way and wave as you say, "Drive carefully." That takes 5 minutes instead of 3 to 4 hours or more each way.
I wish my daughter had gotten her license sooner, and was driving in her senior HS year. UO is a 2 day drive from us, so most of her trips home will be by plane. When we head up for move-in, we will pack her car and the two of us will drive together, and meet my wife in Eugene. After move-in, my wife and I will fly home together.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
I remember those days. Mom's old Accord with the V6, moonroof, and leather, wasn't that sexy, but once it had daughter's full-length MC Escher-style butterfly decals on it and her tunes plugged in, it turned out to be a pretty nice ride.

This Spring we gave her the down payment on a Hyundai Kona, with AWD and a turbo and let her leverage the rest herself as an exercise in adulting.
Full-length like all the way down the side?
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Just got back from 4 days in Eugene, OR with my daughter for her orientation ("IntroDUCKtion") at University of Oregon. They move in on 9/23, and classes start on 9/27, about a month later than most of her friends (quarter system vs. semester system). This was our 4th trip to Eugene, and we always really enjoy it. Being that my daughter's dorm building is a little off campus, one of the questions has been about having a car. Advice we've gotten has been split. Some have said a car is unnecessary. Some have said it's a helpful convenience. We decided to provide a car for her.

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We were on quarters at Allegheny, so not only did I have to work 2 more weeks every summer than my pals back home, but also we had December off - and every damn year, Dad got me a job at the plant for a month. We also had 70 minute lectures instead of 50, and Study DAY instead of Study WEEK before Finals.
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Most of my friends refer to their Garmin with an adjective that starts with FU and ends with CKING. i.e. ******g Garmin.
The weird thing is they behave much better for me than AG, even though it's literally stuff like starting and saving a ride, which she of course does the exact same was as me and everyone else. But her rides get eaten more, and it freezes for her during rides. Even when we swap devices one way or the other. I have no idea what it could be other than gremlins.
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We were discouraged from bringing cars to college, mostly because unless you lived off campus - and only fraction of students there did - it was more a nuisance than anything else. Mrs. GJ and I each lived off campus sophomore year (not together, at least not officially), and we managed without a car. Grocery stores were easily within a 19 year old's walking distance, and there was a laundromat just down the street.

But I went back to the dorm for junior and senior years. It was just less complicated, especially because I snagged a single room both years.
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Oh, and Mojo31 it has become clear that Garmin has no intention of fixing the issue with their wind transducers, which Google shows has been ongoing since at least 2018. We are going to go with Raymarine and swallow all the labor for pulling the cable twice and installing a new A-D box that will talk to NMEA 2000. I will never buy anything from these people again.
That really blows.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
The weird thing is they behave much better for me than AG, even though it's literally stuff like starting and saving a ride, which she of course does the exact same was as me and everyone else. But her rides get eaten more, and it freezes for her during rides. Even when we swap devices one way or the other. I have no idea what it could be other than gremlins.
I've had very limited problems with mine. Once or twice it shut down/rebooted in mid ride, but apart from that it's been working fine since 2018.

BUT I have seen different people have vastly different experiences with things like computers. I generally don't have any problems, but some folks in my group have had their laptops replaced several times.
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Full-length like all the way down the side?
Yes. Pretty cool too. I have a pic somewhere.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
I remember those days. Mom's old Accord with the V6, moonroof, and leather, wasn't that sexy, but once it had daughter's full-length MC Escher-style butterfly decals on it and her tunes plugged in, it turned out to be a pretty nice ride.

This Spring we gave her the down payment on a Hyundai Kona, with AWD and a turbo and let her leverage the rest herself as an exercise in adulting.
I bought each of the kids a new car when they turned 16, and told them it was theirs until they could afford a replacement so take care of it. Daughter got a Nissan Rogue and son got the Mazda 3. They both took very good care of them.

Early in college, our son was rear ended by a Ford F150, and it totaled his car. I ended up buying him another new one because the negotiated price for new was only about $1k more than a 3 year old used with 40k miles on it.

When my daughter graduated with her masters, she wanted a new car. I gave her the title to the Rogue and some cash for additional down payment so she could get the RDX she wanted.

Son graduates in December, but he'll have a car that's worth as much today as it was when we bought it in 2018. He can either keep it or trade it for something else that he can afford.
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