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Old 09-17-14, 03:08 AM
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Shimano Nexus 4-Speed Hub - Blocking the Freewheeln

Hello Community.

I owe a Shimano Nexus 4-Speed hub with drum brake and freewheel.
But i need to block the freewheel that the pedals are fixed to the driving wheel.

Does some one know if this is possible or even better has someone a manual how to do this?
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Old 09-17-14, 08:25 AM
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The "freewheel" you refer to is intrinsic in the design of the hub and cannot be removed.
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Old 09-17-14, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dsbrantjr
The "freewheel" you refer to is intrinsic in the design of the hub and cannot be removed.
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Freewheel IGH hubs can not be changed to fixed wheel mode. The internals of free and fixed IGH hubs a re completely different.
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Old 09-18-14, 06:14 AM
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It´s a pity!
I was hoping that the freewheel mechanism could be blocked somehow.

But thank you for reply.
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Old 09-18-14, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
Freewheel IGH hubs can not be changed to fixed wheel mode. The internals of free and fixed IGH hubs a re completely different.
This is true in general, but people have converted Sturmey Archer AW 3-speed hubs into 2-speed fixed gear hubs:

Converting a Sturmey-Archer AW Hub Into a Two-speed Fixed Gear

You're on your own trying this with the Nexus 4-speed hub, though...
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Old 09-18-14, 08:22 AM
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Shopping solution : You want the S-A S3X* in the rear wheel if you want a 3 speed fixie..

sell your rear wheel buy another.. shifter etc , whole kit.


*https://www.sturmey-archer.com/produc...d/3/id/47.html

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I kinda like the shimano IGH-4's. If you also have a shifter I might be interested if the deal is good enough
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@rhm intuited that my S3X is probably a 5-speed hub with a few differences to make it fixed, and the consequence is that it's only a 3-speed.
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Originally Posted by noglider
@rhm intuited that my S3X is probably a 5-speed hub with a few differences to make it fixed, and the consequence is that it's only a 3-speed.
It is. I've seen a diagram of how it works. Some of the components are lifted straight from the new wide-range SA 5-speed (including the right-hand ball ring, which has a completely redundant ratchet face on the inside as a result of that fact)

More generally, IGHs can generally only gear in one direction (i.e. above or below direct drive) if they're fixed-gear, which is why the new S3X fixed hub, the old SA ASC fixed hub and my ancient SA TF all gear down from direct drive only. That 4-speed has direct drive somewhere in the middle, I believe, and as such couldn't be converted to fixed-gear even theoretically without losing at least one gear. SA AW hubs can be converted to fixed-gear, but again, you lose the abilty to gear up, so they become two-speeds.
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S3X is .. 1:1 for high, .75 and .63 for second & low yes those are the lower 3 gear ratios same as 3/5 ths of the 5 speed.

the driver splines are also threaded so a freewheel can be screwed on later, if you change your mind & want a freewheel hub again.
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Go S3X if you want a fixed gear hub. Its quite enjoyable and you can adjust your fixed cadence depending on headwind resistance or to get more out of pushing yourself to your limit.
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Originally Posted by Airburst
It is. I've seen a diagram of how it works. Some of the components are lifted straight from the new wide-range SA 5-speed (including the right-hand ball ring, which has a completely redundant ratchet face on the inside as a result of that fact)

More generally, IGHs can generally only gear in one direction (i.e. above or below direct drive) if they're fixed-gear, which is why the new S3X fixed hub, the old SA ASC fixed hub and my ancient SA TF all gear down from direct drive only. That 4-speed has direct drive somewhere in the middle, I believe, and as such couldn't be converted to fixed-gear even theoretically without losing at least one gear. SA AW hubs can be converted to fixed-gear, but again, you lose the abilty to gear up, so they become two-speeds.
You are correct in that the S3X shares more design features with the 5 speed wide range than it does with a regular 3 speed. The planet carrier is actually interchangeable with the wide range 5 speed when a pawl carrier is added.
Hopefully, this explains it better than drawings can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJmUds2YQ74
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