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Old 05-22-23, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BCDrums
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As far as I know I have had the same good luck with Amazon, with this one exception, a filter for a vacuum cleaner:


A fake Panasonic filter for a vacuum cleaner

How could I tell?
Typo or misspelling noted. Though that doesn't necessarily mean it's counterfeit. Mistakes do happen in printing. Did you return it?
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Old 05-22-23, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lombard
Typo or misspelling noted. Though that doesn't necessarily mean it's counterfeit.
Possible. Panasonic is spelled correctly twice on the card. But I didn't mention in the first post, just remembered now as you ask, it didn't fit in the vacuum cleaner! And that was when I noticed that Panasonic was misspelled.
Did you return it?
No, but I notified Amazon, and they credited me.
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Old 05-22-23, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas
I have ACTUALLY bought chains from two different seemingly legit USA sellers that were counterfeit.
Can you name these 'seemingly legit USA sellers'?
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Originally Posted by icemilkcoffee
Has anyone actually bought a counterfeit chain from Amazon, from an order that was Fulfilled By Amazon and eligible for Prime shipping? I would find that hard to believe.
When a third party seller's merchandise is "Fulfilled by Amazon", that third party seller's merchandise may be commingled with the "same" product (based on UPC) from Amazon.com and other third party sellers. Thus, even a product both sold and fulfilled by Amazon.com could still be a counterfeit.

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In general I've bought stuff indiscriminately from Amazon, Ebay and Aliexpress without ever thinking twice, and I have never encountered anything that is discernably fake. If they are fake, then they are so well made that I couldn't tell the difference.
Perhaps you are fortunate or just not very discerning?
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Originally Posted by BCDrums
Can you tell us from whom you got the counterfeits? Not to slag them, but it would be helpful. If either are major retailers, it would mean that even recognized, respected retailers are not immune from counterfeits.
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Can you name these 'seemingly legit USA sellers'?
I bought them in late 2020. eBay look-back only goes to 2021. So I must rely on memory. They were not major sellers but I know they were from EBay. I never buy from a seller with low number of feedback. I actually suspect the sellers may have not been aware chains were counterfeit but idk and since it was 2 1/2 years ago I bought them, I am not going after anyone about it.
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Originally Posted by BCDrums
Possible. Panasonic is spelled correctly twice on the card. But I didn't mention in the first post, just remembered now as you ask, it didn't fit in the vacuum cleaner! And that was when I noticed that Panasonic was misspelled.
No, but I notified Amazon, and they credited me.
Yeah, for low cost items, it's cheaper for Amazon to let you keep it rather than paying return shipping.

And now I notice Panasonic is spelled correctly below.
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
When a third party seller's merchandise is "Fulfilled by Amazon", that third party seller's merchandise may be commingled with the "same" product (based on UPC) from Amazon.com and other third party sellers. Thus, even a product both sold and fulfilled by Amazon.com could still be a counterfeit.
I am just asking- has this happened to anyone?
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Found these on the bay-my research shows that PYC is a legit chain mfg out of Taiwan if your interested. I have no interest in these or know of the seller. He is offering one heck of a qty discount though.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275879728347
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Originally Posted by BCDrums
imc,

As far as I know I have had the same good luck with Amazon, with this one exception, a filter for a vacuum cleaner:


A fake Panasonic filter for a vacuum cleaner

How could I tell?
Isn't that the way Canadians spell Panasonic? After all, they mess up colour.
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KMC phonies out there as well, look good, wear/stretch fast
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