Campy old friction shifter with 9 sp cassette?
11-25-19, 01:51 PM
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Campy old friction shifter with 9 sp cassette?
Currently I run 10sp campy cassete with Campy FRICTION shifters for front and rear derailleur, all perfect but I don,t use the 10 cogs so I can mont 8 or 9 sp cassete with the same shifters ?
The rear hub is Campy record 9/ 10 sp maybe 8 ?
The rear hub is Campy record 9/ 10 sp maybe 8 ?
11-25-19, 01:53 PM
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If it works with 10 cogs, it will work with 9.
I have Campy Triomphe shifters friction shifting a 10-speed cassette on my rain bike.
I have Campy Triomphe shifters friction shifting a 10-speed cassette on my rain bike.
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11-25-19, 03:01 PM
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Yea, it should just work the same as with a 10sp cassette. You may need to adjust the limit screws on the derailleur.
I also have 10sp rear on a Campy friction bikes with NR on one and SR on the other. They work great that way and shift much better than the old 6 speed freewheels. The ramps on the cassette make the shifts smooth and the spacing is so tight that you are almost never between gears so it is quiet. No more clang, clang, clang.
I also have 10sp rear on a Campy friction bikes with NR on one and SR on the other. They work great that way and shift much better than the old 6 speed freewheels. The ramps on the cassette make the shifts smooth and the spacing is so tight that you are almost never between gears so it is quiet. No more clang, clang, clang.
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Yea, it should just work the same as with a 10sp cassette. You may need to adjust the limit screws on the derailleur.
I also have 10sp rear on a Campy friction bikes with NR on one and SR on the other. They work great that way and shift much better than the old 6 speed freewheels. The ramps on the cassette make the shifts smooth and the spacing is so tight that you are almost never between gears so it is quiet. No more clang, clang, clang.
I also have 10sp rear on a Campy friction bikes with NR on one and SR on the other. They work great that way and shift much better than the old 6 speed freewheels. The ramps on the cassette make the shifts smooth and the spacing is so tight that you are almost never between gears so it is quiet. No more clang, clang, clang.
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If you are already using the 10 speed, wait for them to wear out, and then buy 9 speed if you want.
10 speed Veloce cassettes are cheap, so maybe go 9 or 10, depending on price.
10 speed Veloce cassettes are cheap, so maybe go 9 or 10, depending on price.
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Damn. Now I’ll have to try my Shimano 600s with a 10-speed cassette.
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11-26-19, 04:28 AM
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Over the years I've been saying on the forums that the cassette ramps and chains that followed them were what made shifting so much easier, not so much the indexing. Early indexing didn't have them and was just as hard to shift as friction, in fact harder because you didn't have trim so if it wasn't perfectly adjusted it didn't work well at all. I have an old Cannondale that had Suntour 6sp indexing and it was awful. This isn't to say that I don't like indexing, my main ride is Chorus 10sp, but when I go back to my bike with the friction downtube it feels just fine to ride.
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No, not really. I've used both and neither really need trim, or at least you get used to shifting this way. You need very little movement of the shifter and it feels very natural. The ramps force the chain up or down rather than the derailleurs position and you instinctively know when it is right. The old freewheels had much larger spacing so you'd frequently be between gears or not quite in it. Like I said above, no more clang, clang, clang.
Over the years I've been saying on the forums that the cassette ramps and chains that followed them were what made shifting so much easier, not so much the indexing. Early indexing didn't have them and was just as hard to shift as friction, in fact harder because you didn't have trim so if it wasn't perfectly adjusted it didn't work well at all. I have an old Cannondale that had Suntour 6sp indexing and it was awful. This isn't to say that I don't like indexing, my main ride is Chorus 10sp, but when I go back to my bike with the friction downtube it feels just fine to ride.
Over the years I've been saying on the forums that the cassette ramps and chains that followed them were what made shifting so much easier, not so much the indexing. Early indexing didn't have them and was just as hard to shift as friction, in fact harder because you didn't have trim so if it wasn't perfectly adjusted it didn't work well at all. I have an old Cannondale that had Suntour 6sp indexing and it was awful. This isn't to say that I don't like indexing, my main ride is Chorus 10sp, but when I go back to my bike with the friction downtube it feels just fine to ride.
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No, not really. I've used both and neither really need trim, or at least you get used to shifting this way. You need very little movement of the shifter and it feels very natural. The ramps force the chain up or down rather than the derailleurs position and you instinctively know when it is right. The old freewheels had much larger spacing so you'd frequently be between gears or not quite in it. Like I said above, no more clang, clang, clang.
Over the years I've been saying on the forums that the cassette ramps and chains that followed them were what made shifting so much easier, not so much the indexing. Early indexing didn't have them and was just as hard to shift as friction, in fact harder because you didn't have trim so if it wasn't perfectly adjusted it didn't work well at all. I have an old Cannondale that had Suntour 6sp indexing and it was awful. This isn't to say that I don't like indexing, my main ride is Chorus 10sp, but when I go back to my bike with the friction downtube it feels just fine to ride.
Over the years I've been saying on the forums that the cassette ramps and chains that followed them were what made shifting so much easier, not so much the indexing. Early indexing didn't have them and was just as hard to shift as friction, in fact harder because you didn't have trim so if it wasn't perfectly adjusted it didn't work well at all. I have an old Cannondale that had Suntour 6sp indexing and it was awful. This isn't to say that I don't like indexing, my main ride is Chorus 10sp, but when I go back to my bike with the friction downtube it feels just fine to ride.
11-26-19, 11:15 AM
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I have seen people running 10 speed chains on a 9 speed cassette, some say it works fine, others say no. There is not a lot of difference between them so a 10 speed chain will work on the 9 speed cassette. For me, if I were changing the cassette, I would buy a new chain anyway, so I would simply buy a new 9 speed chain. That is just me though. Try it and see how you like it. Change it if necessary.
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