(Sora vs 105) Need opinion on which to pick from a seemingly close comparison
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(Sora vs 105) Need opinion on which to pick from a seemingly close comparison
Casual upgrading to road cycling. Ordering from a local bike shop and wondering which to pick. My main goal is a decent road bike that will run smoothly and quiet minimizing issues like chain rub and chain slip while not being too overwhelming for someone new upgrading to a road bike. TLDR: 105 R7000, rim breaks vs Sora R3000, hydraulic disk brakes. The 105 version is priced 200$ higher. Looking for opinions and additional insight.
105 (200$ higher)
Frame Carbon T700 R03
Fork Carbon T700 R03 OL:100mm
Handlebars "EXCEL components" Aluminum 31.8 Clamp
Stem "EXCEL components" Aluminum 31.8X110 28.6±7°
Seatpost "EXCEL components" T700 Carbon, R03 350mm
Handlebar Tape PU, 3WPG-BK, 2150x30mm
Saddle YBT-6035
Headset NECO H373MPS/286G
Left Shifter SHIMANO 105 ST-R7000,2-SPEED LEFT
Right Shifter SHIMANO 105 ST-R7000,11-SPEED RIGHT
Front Derailleur SHIMANO 105 FD-R7000-L, DOWN-SWING
Rear Derailleur SHIMANO 105 RD-R7000, GS 11-SPEED
Brake Caliper TEKTRO R313 39-52MM ED
Cassette SHIMANO 105, CS-R7000, 11-SPEED, 11-30T
Crankset PROWHEEL VICTOR-621C-TT , 50-34T
Chain KMC X11 108L
Pedals LP-658A Alloy, 9/16"BR
Rims "EXCEL components" Aluminum, Double wall rim, H:36mm, 700C 14Gx20H/24H
Front hub NUVOLE, Two bearings, 20H*14G M9*108*100, W/QR, Anodized
Rear hub NUVOLE, Four bearings, 24H*14G M10*140*130 ,W/QR,Anodized
Tire Continental, Ultra Sport II (C304 SL) 700x25C Wire
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Sora:
Frame Carbon T700 R08
Fork Carbon T700 M12*100 R08
Handlebars "EXCEL components" Aluminum, SM-AL-197TP 400L*31.8
Stem "EXCEL components" Aluminum, SM-AL-106-8 31.8*90 28.6±7°
Seatpost "EXCEL components" Carbon T700, R08 350mm
Handlebar Tape PU SINGLE-COLOR Dream Black
Saddle YBT-6035#
Headset GH-540 Bearing 1-1/8" 28.6*47*47
Left Shifter SHIMANO SORA ST-R3000-L, LEFT, 2-SPEED
Right Shifter SHIMANO SORA ST-R3000-R, RIGHT, 9-SPEED
Front Derailleur SHIMANO SORA FD-R3000
Rear Derailleur SHIMANO SORA RD-R3000 GS DIRECT ATTACHMENT
Brake Caliper PRO, A8000 Hydraulic brake
Brake rotor PRO ,AR18, 140MM, Red center
Cassette SUNSHINE,ROAD-CS-HR9-32 9S 11T-32T
Bottom Bracket SHIMANO SM-BBR60
Crankset PHOWHEEL OUNCE-421C-TT-N,34-50T*170mm BB86
Chain KMC Z9 1/2''X11/128'' 108L grey
Pedals LP-658A Alloy, 9/16"BR
Rims "EXCEL components" Aluminum, double wall rim, H:30mm 700C*28H*14G,F/V
Front hub NUVOLE,288F 2BS 4G*28H M12*100 Anodized black
Rear hub NUVOLE ,288F 2BS 14G*28H M12*142 Anodized black
Tire CST C1808 700x28C DK27
105 (200$ higher)
Frame Carbon T700 R03
Fork Carbon T700 R03 OL:100mm
Handlebars "EXCEL components" Aluminum 31.8 Clamp
Stem "EXCEL components" Aluminum 31.8X110 28.6±7°
Seatpost "EXCEL components" T700 Carbon, R03 350mm
Handlebar Tape PU, 3WPG-BK, 2150x30mm
Saddle YBT-6035
Headset NECO H373MPS/286G
Left Shifter SHIMANO 105 ST-R7000,2-SPEED LEFT
Right Shifter SHIMANO 105 ST-R7000,11-SPEED RIGHT
Front Derailleur SHIMANO 105 FD-R7000-L, DOWN-SWING
Rear Derailleur SHIMANO 105 RD-R7000, GS 11-SPEED
Brake Caliper TEKTRO R313 39-52MM ED
Cassette SHIMANO 105, CS-R7000, 11-SPEED, 11-30T
Crankset PROWHEEL VICTOR-621C-TT , 50-34T
Chain KMC X11 108L
Pedals LP-658A Alloy, 9/16"BR
Rims "EXCEL components" Aluminum, Double wall rim, H:36mm, 700C 14Gx20H/24H
Front hub NUVOLE, Two bearings, 20H*14G M9*108*100, W/QR, Anodized
Rear hub NUVOLE, Four bearings, 24H*14G M10*140*130 ,W/QR,Anodized
Tire Continental, Ultra Sport II (C304 SL) 700x25C Wire
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Sora:
Frame Carbon T700 R08
Fork Carbon T700 M12*100 R08
Handlebars "EXCEL components" Aluminum, SM-AL-197TP 400L*31.8
Stem "EXCEL components" Aluminum, SM-AL-106-8 31.8*90 28.6±7°
Seatpost "EXCEL components" Carbon T700, R08 350mm
Handlebar Tape PU SINGLE-COLOR Dream Black
Saddle YBT-6035#
Headset GH-540 Bearing 1-1/8" 28.6*47*47
Left Shifter SHIMANO SORA ST-R3000-L, LEFT, 2-SPEED
Right Shifter SHIMANO SORA ST-R3000-R, RIGHT, 9-SPEED
Front Derailleur SHIMANO SORA FD-R3000
Rear Derailleur SHIMANO SORA RD-R3000 GS DIRECT ATTACHMENT
Brake Caliper PRO, A8000 Hydraulic brake
Brake rotor PRO ,AR18, 140MM, Red center
Cassette SUNSHINE,ROAD-CS-HR9-32 9S 11T-32T
Bottom Bracket SHIMANO SM-BBR60
Crankset PHOWHEEL OUNCE-421C-TT-N,34-50T*170mm BB86
Chain KMC Z9 1/2''X11/128'' 108L grey
Pedals LP-658A Alloy, 9/16"BR
Rims "EXCEL components" Aluminum, double wall rim, H:30mm 700C*28H*14G,F/V
Front hub NUVOLE,288F 2BS 4G*28H M12*100 Anodized black
Rear hub NUVOLE ,288F 2BS 14G*28H M12*142 Anodized black
Tire CST C1808 700x28C DK27
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I'd go with the disc brake version. It is a cable actuated hydraulic brake (fluid is only in the caliper) which probably should be pretty good. Shimano R3000 is also very solid.
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Id go 105, every time. However, is the 105-equipped frame disc compatible? If so, get that one. If not, it becomes a harder decision.
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I'm already pushing my budget so im pretty much keeping them as is for now. Since they are closely priced I just wanna know what's the best value in terms of getting performance and longevity out of them. I'm still a beginner and have a decent amount of long slight climbs in the area but im not planning on any hardcore mountain road descents/climbs in the near future. Im also curious about why the price is so close as 105 seems to be a decently more expensive group set (I.e is the 105 bike lacking somewhere else that lets it be so closely priced to a sora build).
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I'm already pushing my budget so im pretty much keeping them as is for now. Since they are closely priced I just wanna know what's the best value in terms of getting performance and longevity out of them. I'm still a beginner and have a decent amount of long slight climbs in the area but im not planning on any hardcore mountain road descents/climbs in the near future. Im also curious about why the price is so close as 105 seems to be a decently more expensive group set (I.e is the 105 bike lacking somewhere else that lets it be so closely priced to a sora build).
Personally, I'd go with the 105 if you aren't doing lots of descents or riding in the wet. Sora is fine, but new 105 is simply spectacular in terms of feel / shift quality.
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Obviously Tiagra is the right choice here.
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Personally sora would be a deal breaker for me. So 105 without hesitation. But tiagra would also be awesome.
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If you don't know why you want 11 speeds, then the Sora equipped bike has a lower ratio at least which might help you on some hills. After you ride if several thousand miles you'll know based on your own experience and won't have to ask others next time. Getting the lower priced bike will leave you some to start saving for your next bike.
105 11 speed would be my usual choice over Sora 9 speed. But the 105 bike has too many components on it that aren't 105. And while the Sora bike has a lot of other cheap components, at least it has hydraulic brakes which would be my choice for any bike that comes with disc brakes.
105 11 speed would be my usual choice over Sora 9 speed. But the 105 bike has too many components on it that aren't 105. And while the Sora bike has a lot of other cheap components, at least it has hydraulic brakes which would be my choice for any bike that comes with disc brakes.
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Have both 105 R7000 and Sora R3000. Wife has current Tiara. My preference in order:
105 disc
Tiagra disc
105 rim
Sora disc.
105 disc
Tiagra disc
105 rim
Sora disc.
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I have used two or three different versions of 105 (and currently own a bike that has the 2018 version, 5800), and three different versions of Sora, over the past ~20 years. In fairness, I have not tried the most current edition of Sora...but none of the Sora components I have used came close to the precision and palapable quality fit&finish, of any of the 105 components, especially the most current 105 stuff.
Get 105.
Get 105.
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Ditto on the 105, it's a much better group than Sora.
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But the 105 isn't a complete groupset. The bike is a mish mash of other components which is more typical in very cheap bikes.
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bikes are 1.3 for sora 1.5k for the 105 which seems reasonable for a new bike but ultimately still on the low end in terms of roadbikes
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I had a 105 mix. Color me unimpressed. Upgraded to full 6800 Ultegra and it was like riding a completely new bike.
Do yourself a favor and save your duckets until you can afford Ultegra.
Do yourself a favor and save your duckets until you can afford Ultegra.
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I'd pick 105. It's really good, but also a whole lot more upgradable since it's 100% compatible with Ultegra and Dura-Ace.
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R7000 is much closer to R8000 than 5700 was to 6800.
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There is an entire group set version for an extra 1k for shimano 105 cranks, cassette, bottom bracket and brakes. I get it would be optimal but for a medium budget beginner it seems like a big jump (1.8k vs 2.8k) for more elements to be brand name. However, If everything does go well and after a ton of riding if i do need part replacement I would aim for 105 parts to be the replacements.
Basically, for a starter am I still getting a decent bike even thought only 4/7 parts are 105 branded.
Basically, for a starter am I still getting a decent bike even thought only 4/7 parts are 105 branded.
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