'Cyclist Killed by Cement Truck and 2 Other Deaths Spur "Emergency"'
07-12-19, 09:21 AM
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That particular poster has a habit of depositing a commentary free link and departing without showing any interest in the ensuing discussion. If an article interests me enough to want to share it here, I'll share it, provide comments and attend the discussion that follows. I don't get the value someone finds in posting a link then disappearing from the conversation.
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07-12-19, 09:30 AM
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I like "ceding" the area used for right turns when I'm stopped at a light, by stopping about 10 feet short. This is at intersections with no dedicated right turn lane.
I've seen too many people block the right turn area while waiting for lights to change, totally unconcerned about holding people up who want to turn right, vehicles that could otherwise filter to the front, make their turn and continue on.
It's not only the considerate thing to do, but I think it's also much safer, especially around large trucks.
I've seen too many people block the right turn area while waiting for lights to change, totally unconcerned about holding people up who want to turn right, vehicles that could otherwise filter to the front, make their turn and continue on.
It's not only the considerate thing to do, but I think it's also much safer, especially around large trucks.
I am a bit confused by your positioning. Are you moving far right and staying back an extra 10 feet? Describe your lane position and tell me which side cars are passing you on.
07-14-19, 05:45 PM
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I thought the story told it all. Obviously I'm against people getting killed, especially bicyclists.
I didn't have anything to say about the ensuing discussion. My Mother always said, 'If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all.' I thought the link might interest some participants in this forum.
That particular poster has a habit of depositing a commentary free link and departing without showing any interest in the ensuing discussion. If an article interests me enough to want to share it here, I'll share it, provide comments and attend the discussion that follows. I don't get the value someone finds in posting a link then disappearing from the conversation.
07-14-19, 05:53 PM
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Trucks only use one road in our city centre. There's a separate roadway for deliveries to the main shopping mall. And trucks only use bypasses throughout the rest of the city, which feed straight into our industrial estates. Retail estates have separate entrances for goods trucks.
We don't have trucks in our housing estates, office areas or shopping areas.
Yeah. Bypasses (freeways) and industrial estates. That's about the only place you'll find trucks.
What brings them onto the sort of city streets where they'd mix with cyclists?
We don't have trucks in our housing estates, office areas or shopping areas.
Yeah. Bypasses (freeways) and industrial estates. That's about the only place you'll find trucks.
What brings them onto the sort of city streets where they'd mix with cyclists?
PS The highways around there were developed by a crazy car dude in the 20th century and he ruint the joint.
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I thought the story told it all. Obviously I'm against people getting killed, especially bicyclists.
I didn't have anything to say about the ensuing discussion. My Mother always said, 'If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all.' I thought the link might interest some participants in this forum.
I didn't have anything to say about the ensuing discussion. My Mother always said, 'If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all.' I thought the link might interest some participants in this forum.
07-15-19, 07:16 PM
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I thought to comment upon it would be to paint the lily. I thought it spoke for itself. I posted it in case it would interest others who might have missed it otherwise. I don't think there's much to discuss; there's no controversy. On this and other fora people have thanked me for bringing articles to their attention - if not you.
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I thought to comment upon it would be to paint the lily. I thought it spoke for itself. I posted it in case it would interest others who might have missed it otherwise. I don't think there's much to discuss; there's no controversy. On this and other fora people have thanked me for bringing articles to their attention - if not you.
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07-16-19, 06:22 AM
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If I arrive first at a stoplight, I will often move as far forward and left as I can if I can do it safely and there is someone behind me who is indicating a right turn. I may also run the light if I can safely do it, and it will positively impact the overall flow of traffic.
07-21-19, 01:42 PM
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I read all of them, contributed all that I could. Often discussions go astray from the original topic. If that's what others want to do, I don't contribute by upbraiding them.
In the good old days, there were 'clip services': they'd read all (or a subset) of newspapers for local articles (not available through a national syndicate, such as AP or UPI), send copies to subscribers who wanted to keep up with news that wasn't reported in their local paper. Most of them I remember specialized in topics: science, medicine, education... Some were state-wide, useful to politicians (and the like) who wanted to keep up with everything that was going on in the state. I see my messages that contain just a pointer to an article as similar to those services. What's the harm?
07-21-19, 08:21 PM
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Absolutely........
Same at 4 way stops........
If I'm first to a one-lane intersection, I'm taking the lane, and don't care if it blocks the right turn on red. It's no more inconsiderate than what a driver would do in that situation. The cede 10 foot rule sounds really bad to me. If I do that and two other cars pull up before the light changes, do I now have to back up another 10 feet?
Generally, I'm filtering up to where all of the cars can see me.
Generally, I'm filtering up to where all of the cars can see me.
07-22-19, 07:51 AM
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You pay more attention to my participation in this forum than I do.
I read all of them, contributed all that I could. Often discussions go astray from the original topic. If that's what others want to do, I don't contribute by upbraiding them.
Your construction. Note that when you quoted me, you changed my name in the quote tag, which kept the forum from notifying me that someone had quoted me. This is misbehavior, and not the behavior of someone who wants me to participate in the thread.
In the good old days, there were 'clip services': they'd read all (or a subset) of newspapers for local articles (not available through a national syndicate, such as AP or UPI), send copies to subscribers who wanted to keep up with news that wasn't reported in their local paper. Most of them I remember specialized in topics: science, medicine, education... Some were state-wide, useful to politicians (and the like) who wanted to keep up with everything that was going on in the state. I see my messages that contain just a pointer to an article as similar to those services. What's the harm?
I read all of them, contributed all that I could. Often discussions go astray from the original topic. If that's what others want to do, I don't contribute by upbraiding them.
Your construction. Note that when you quoted me, you changed my name in the quote tag, which kept the forum from notifying me that someone had quoted me. This is misbehavior, and not the behavior of someone who wants me to participate in the thread.
In the good old days, there were 'clip services': they'd read all (or a subset) of newspapers for local articles (not available through a national syndicate, such as AP or UPI), send copies to subscribers who wanted to keep up with news that wasn't reported in their local paper. Most of them I remember specialized in topics: science, medicine, education... Some were state-wide, useful to politicians (and the like) who wanted to keep up with everything that was going on in the state. I see my messages that contain just a pointer to an article as similar to those services. What's the harm?
You still have not participated in the discussion yous started. Only this aside with me.
This isn't a headline news service. It's a discussion forum. One you have a particular aversion to engaging in.
07-24-19, 11:06 PM
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Apparently that's the case: sorry. It keeps me from being notified I've been quoted.
I started it: that's participation. If it weren't interesting, no one would have replied.
Nina Totenberg described Marty Ginsburg as his wife's (Ruth Bader Ginsburg) clipping service on NPR today.
I started it: that's participation. If it weren't interesting, no one would have replied.
Nina Totenberg described Marty Ginsburg as his wife's (Ruth Bader Ginsburg) clipping service on NPR today.
07-26-19, 02:12 AM
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Unfortunately many cyclists do ride in a way motorists deem as aggressively entitled, but then cyclists need to carry their speed to make up for weaknesses in other areas.
It's the same with trucks. A car driver will hold up a truck going downhill, then wonder why the truck's going so slow uphill. Thoughtless but also a lack of knowledge.
And people are hypocrites, and unnecessarily resentful. Moan cyclists are holding them up, but then moan when we use a pedestrian's green light or squeeze between traffic...
But understanding will only go so far. Vehicles are adrenaline catalysts. It's a dog-eat-dog world out there. Survival of the fittest. It'll never be foolproof. Take your headphones out, pay attention.
It's the same with trucks. A car driver will hold up a truck going downhill, then wonder why the truck's going so slow uphill. Thoughtless but also a lack of knowledge.
And people are hypocrites, and unnecessarily resentful. Moan cyclists are holding them up, but then moan when we use a pedestrian's green light or squeeze between traffic...
But understanding will only go so far. Vehicles are adrenaline catalysts. It's a dog-eat-dog world out there. Survival of the fittest. It'll never be foolproof. Take your headphones out, pay attention.
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