Advice on wheel upgrade
#1
Newbie
Thread Starter
Advice on wheel upgrade
I have an AllCity Mr. Pink which was their endurance geometry road bike with oem wheels that I’m thinking of upgrading. Max budget is $1000. Should I buy a cheaper carbon set of wheels or have my lbs build a custom set of wheels on aluminum rims? I’m nearly 200lbs and my average cruising speed is 17-22mph and I ride pavement only
#2
Should Be More Popular
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Posts: 43,030
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
Mentioned: 560 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22575 Post(s)
Liked 8,919 Times
in
4,153 Posts
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 4,083
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2333 Post(s)
Liked 2,097 Times
in
1,314 Posts
I would go with strength. Carbon. Sapim spokes. Something like a pair of Yoeleo or one of the others like it. $1000 will do it.
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 702
Bikes: '23 Poseidon Redwood, '07 Specialized Roubaix Comp Triple, '12 Gravity Fixie, '21 Liv Rove 4, '06? Giant EB Spirit
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 345 Post(s)
Liked 237 Times
in
151 Posts
I have an AllCity Mr. Pink which was their endurance geometry road bike with oem wheels that I’m thinking of upgrading. Max budget is $1000. Should I buy a cheaper carbon set of wheels or have my lbs build a custom set of wheels on aluminum rims? I’m nearly 200lbs and my average cruising speed is 17-22mph and I ride pavement only
Likes For Symox:
#5
Senior Member
Although I only use aluminum rims I am amazed at the durability of carbon rims. Only seen one of them crack at a spoke hole and that was after 3 years of use. I recommend DT Swiss 240 hubs for absolute best durability, cheap Chinese carbon rims, and either DT Swiss DB spokes (my preference) or Sapim DB spokes. Only use brass nipples to avoid corrosion with carbon rims.
#6
Sunshine
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 16,605
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10947 Post(s)
Liked 7,474 Times
in
4,181 Posts
I have an AllCity Mr. Pink which was their endurance geometry road bike with oem wheels that I’m thinking of upgrading. Max budget is $1000. Should I buy a cheaper carbon set of wheels or have my lbs build a custom set of wheels on aluminum rims? I’m nearly 200lbs and my average cruising speed is 17-22mph and I ride pavement only
Likes For mstateglfr:
#7
Newbie
Thread Starter
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Eastern VA
Posts: 1,720
Bikes: 2022 Fuel EX 8, 2021 Domane SL6, Black Beta (Nashbar frame), 2004 Trek 1000C for the trainer
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 267 Post(s)
Liked 447 Times
in
266 Posts
Go aero. It’ll look cool and roll fast.
Edit: after looking yes carbon aero wheels. I need a frame like that for my spare parts build with Aeroles 5 wheels but with rack mounts.
https://allcitycycles.com/bikes/mr_pink_classic
Edit: after looking yes carbon aero wheels. I need a frame like that for my spare parts build with Aeroles 5 wheels but with rack mounts.
https://allcitycycles.com/bikes/mr_pink_classic
Last edited by biker128pedal; 10-24-21 at 06:12 PM.
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Australia
Posts: 823
Bikes: 2002 Trek 5200 (US POSTAL), 2020 Canyon Aeroad SL
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 313 Post(s)
Liked 679 Times
in
327 Posts
I'm a full-tilt aero deep section carbon kind of guy, but on that bike a set of hand built alloy wheels would be great.
#10
Sunshine
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 16,605
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10947 Post(s)
Liked 7,474 Times
in
4,181 Posts
disclosure- that last detailed build is what I have on my main road bike which is steel with zona tubing that has eerily similar geometry to the mr pink.
A handbuilt set of wheels with proper tension and good hubs will roll well, like you want. And being nearly 200# isnt heavy. I wouldnt think twice to read that over half of adult cyclists are more than that.
prowheelbuilder could give you an option for carbon wheels too as they have a carbon house rim that would be right at your max budget.
#11
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chicago, IL, USA
Posts: 2,873
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1455 Post(s)
Liked 1,477 Times
in
867 Posts
If this is a rim brake bike (pretty sure it is?) I would definitely be looking at alloy wheels. Carbon wheels are awesome, but braking on carbon rims is not. Unless you are dead set on carbon and willing to accept the trade off here, alloy is likely a better choice.
For a $1000 budget, you can get some really nice alloy wheels. Sapim CX ray spokes and fancy hubs from Chris King or White Industries are possible in this price range. A custom build like this will be light and fast, and these boutique hubs are really solid and typically get faster with age. Probably the last set of hubs you'll ever need to buy.
There are many options out there for a build like this, but I have had great experiences with Psimet (who is also a longtime poster on this board, builds a ton of wheels, and runs a great local shop and race teams in the Chicago area, and is just generally a nice guy):
https://www.psimet.com/shop/road-whe...ess-rim-brake/
Give them a call and they can talk through the pros/cons and help steer you in the right direction.
For a $1000 budget, you can get some really nice alloy wheels. Sapim CX ray spokes and fancy hubs from Chris King or White Industries are possible in this price range. A custom build like this will be light and fast, and these boutique hubs are really solid and typically get faster with age. Probably the last set of hubs you'll ever need to buy.
There are many options out there for a build like this, but I have had great experiences with Psimet (who is also a longtime poster on this board, builds a ton of wheels, and runs a great local shop and race teams in the Chicago area, and is just generally a nice guy):
https://www.psimet.com/shop/road-whe...ess-rim-brake/
Give them a call and they can talk through the pros/cons and help steer you in the right direction.
Likes For msu2001la:
#12
Method to My Madness
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Orange County, California
Posts: 3,641
Bikes: Trek FX 2, Cannondale Synapse, Cannondale CAAD4, Santa Cruz Stigmata GRX
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1939 Post(s)
Liked 1,463 Times
in
1,012 Posts
Even on the latest (2020/2021) carbon wheels with carbon specific rim brake pads/shoes in perfectly dry weather?
Last edited by SoSmellyAir; 10-28-21 at 08:06 PM.
#13
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: South Shore of Long Island
Posts: 2,785
Bikes: 2010 Carrera Volans, 2015 C-Dale Trail 2sl, 2017 Raleigh Rush Hour, 2017 Blue Proseccio, 1992 Giant Perigee, 80s Gitane Rallye Tandem
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1079 Post(s)
Liked 1,019 Times
in
719 Posts
Carbon for me is also too much of a tradeoff with rim brakes. Want a little more aero go with a velocity aileron rim with white industry hubs, I've got two sets of them in the family and you won't go wrong with the build. Better is those rims with king but that is tight to your budget. Prettier is the ailerons in a color to match the bike or hubs and with WI you'll probably still be just in budget.
#14
Method to My Madness
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Orange County, California
Posts: 3,641
Bikes: Trek FX 2, Cannondale Synapse, Cannondale CAAD4, Santa Cruz Stigmata GRX
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1939 Post(s)
Liked 1,463 Times
in
1,012 Posts
Carbon for me is also too much of a tradeoff with rim brakes. Want a little more aero go with a velocity aileron rim with white industry hubs, I've got two sets of them in the family and you won't go wrong with the build. Better is those rims with king but that is tight to your budget. Prettier is the ailerons in a color to match the bike or hubs and with WI you'll probably still be just in budget.
#15
Advocatus Diaboli
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Wherever I am
Posts: 8,631
Bikes: Merlin Cyrene, Nashbar steel CX
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4729 Post(s)
Liked 1,531 Times
in
1,002 Posts
+1 on the Prowheelbuilder option, or another off-the-shelf option:
https://us.huntbikewheels.com/collec...wide#techspecs
https://us.huntbikewheels.com/collec...wide#techspecs
#16
Junior Member
I ride a sortof simliar bike to the OP... a Soma Smoothie. (Shorter wheelbase... but still steel.) I'm lighter (at ~170 pounds) and not particularly powerful, but I'm fairly hard on wheels anyhow. I ride in all weather and all times of day/night, I hit a LOT of potholes, and I occasionally ride on gravel. Not to brag, but in 2020 I rode 5400 miles, averaging 22.7 miles and 1400ft of elevation gain per ride. Those averages are brought down a bit by shorter/flatter/slower rides that I enjoy with my wife approximately weekly. Except for those "recovery rides", I always ride alone. Since I'm never trying to keep up on a group ride, watt saving aerodynamics don't mean a lot to me. I do try to set lots of PRs on Strava and I do pretty okay on the leaderboards... but I care more about climbing that headwinds. I think it's weird how little tires have been discussed on this thread... tires and wheels must be discussed together. I've tried road-tubeless and it's not for me! (I like high inflation pressure, for one thing. I don't like getting sprayed with sealant, or trying to remount a sticky mess at roadside after repairing a puncture that didn't repair itself...) I'm presently running 28mm Continental GT All-Season tires... though in the past I've enjoyed running sportier tires in the summer. So...
When I was shopping for replacement wheels, I chose Campagnolo Zondas. I think they compare well with other wheels mentioned in this thread. Certainly the company is reputable. They have great hubs. They're relatively lightweight and robust for alloy wheels. I think they're cool looking. And they're a bargain! Less than half the budget mentioned above... so you could buy two sets and swap between "dry" and "rain" set-ups or whatever.
When I was shopping for replacement wheels, I chose Campagnolo Zondas. I think they compare well with other wheels mentioned in this thread. Certainly the company is reputable. They have great hubs. They're relatively lightweight and robust for alloy wheels. I think they're cool looking. And they're a bargain! Less than half the budget mentioned above... so you could buy two sets and swap between "dry" and "rain" set-ups or whatever.