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Old 03-21-22, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rolla
Ritchey is ascending rapidly on my short list.
I really like mine, it’s very off-roady and I bet the Outback is more so.

They use a straight head tube, so if you don’t like the carbon fork, you can get just about anything. The carbon fork seems pretty great to me though.
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Rolla i feel like we’re here with you along the journey. Looking forward to it unfolding!

The Ritchey Frameset was on my list but over my budget (price here in Canada where it was available was nearly 3x the price of the Cross Check I ended up getting).

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by katsup
​​​​​​Several articles say that a steel fork is more "compliant", they offer more vertical flex. I've also seen videos where people swap to a steel fork as they can feel the difference when riding over 50 miles on gravel.

How a fork was designed should make the most difference, regardless of material. Like frames, not all forks are created equal.
Sorry, a quality carbon gravel fork of course, not just any carbon road fork.

You can find a lot of bad advice mixed in with the good out there.

Only the cheapest steel gravel bikes still come standard with a steel fork. The exception would be the really heavy-built ones designed more for bikepacking with a loaded fork, etc., but in that case that is a steel fork for durability, not for comfort.
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I'm not really into steel bikes, but I'm not a hater either. So take this as just something else to consider.

These guys are a small Colorado company. I got to check one out a few months ago, a local bike shop employee had his out on a display rack. Frame is $1600 to $2100 depending on finish, complete bike with rival 1×12 is around $4100.

https://www.rodeo-labs.com/shop/framesets/flaanimal5/
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Only the cheapest steel gravel bikes still come standard with a steel fork. The exception would be the really heavy-built ones designed more for bikepacking with a loaded fork, etc., but in that case that is a steel fork for durability, not for comfort.
There are a few holdouts, such as all city space horse and fairlight faran, but they do get marketed more as touring or bike packing. It is why I'm keeping my soma fog cutter, I prefer the look and feel of steel fork.
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A Rock Lobster custom frame is right at the top of your F&F budget: https://rocklobstercycles.com/
He has a 1 year waiting list though.
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It may not check all of your boxes, but at the price it is loaded with features.

https://www.citygrounds.com/products...40692429946991
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https://www.ninerbikes.com/products/rlt-9-steel/
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Originally Posted by TugaDude
It may not check all of your boxes, but at the price it is loaded with features.

all-city-gorilla-monsoon

Originally Posted by Rolla
Already considering Breezer, Black Mountain, All-City, Chumba, and Kona
Thanks. Definitely a contender.

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Thanks anyway.
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That's 5 star build kit Price. Check out 2 and 3 star.
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Niner refuses to thread their shells. Why pressfit a steel frame? Its like the most simple and straightforward setup- thread the shell and call it good.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Niner refuses to thread their shells. Why pressfit a steel frame? Its like the most simple and straightforward setup- thread the shell and call it good.
Yeah. I don't disagree. No more PFBB bikes for me either.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Niner refuses to thread their shells.

Hoo boy. BSA is a non-negotiable, too.
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I must say that I am disappointed in the BF masses. We are this deep into the thread and nobody has tried to change the OPs frame material to carbon, his brake choice to rim brakes and his gearing to triple. We do get credit for trying to push him well outside his price range, so I haven't lost all faith.

OP, you may find fun in playing with some these links.
https://theframebuilders.com/list/
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
I must say that I am disappointed in the BF masses. We are this deep into the thread and nobody has tried to change the OPs frame material to carbon, his brake choice to rim brakes and his gearing to triple. We do get credit for trying to push him well outside his price range, so I haven't lost all faith.

OP, you may find fun in playing with some these links.
https://theframebuilders.com/list/
I didn’t read every response, did anyone tell him to get a 90’s mountain bike?
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Rolla I see you mentioned Black Mountain. My brother has one and it is smooth as hell (even just on 700x35) and he loves it. So, just consider this a vote for that I suppose. I rode it and was shocked how it felt as almost as smooth as my 650b x 47 set up.

We are all vicariously extremely excited for you lol
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Originally Posted by rosefarts
I didn’t read every response, did anyone tell him to get a 90’s mountain bike?
actual lololololol.
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
actual lololololol.
I was just about to suggest a carbon 90’s mountain bike, 3x drivetrain
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The Rodeo Labs Flannimal is a great choice as well.
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I know press-fit BBs get a bad rap, but I think most of that is bad internet over-hyping the problem. We repair a few thousand bikes a year and see maybe 1 - 2 creaking press-fits each year. If it is a quality bike with proper tolerances and properly installed with the correct locktite compound, then very few or the millions out there must be repaired. Much of the hype is people telling other people's stories. I'd have no reservation at all about buying a quality bike with a properly installed press-fit BB.
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Originally Posted by Rolla
Hoo boy. BSA is a non-negotiable, too.
what do you have against larger diameter, wider BB shells? Their benefits seem particularly beneficial to steel gravel frames.
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
I must say that I am disappointed in the BF masses. We are this deep into the thread and nobody has tried to change the OPs frame material to carbon, his brake choice to rim brakes and his gearing to triple. We do get credit for trying to push him well outside his price range, so I haven't lost all faith.

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If it was me, I'd choose carbon.

Good luck finding a new rim brake gravel bike these days and good luck finding triple gearing. Disc brakes and wide range cassettes have eliminated the need for disc brakes and triple chainring.
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Originally Posted by rosefarts
I didn’t read every response, did anyone tell him to get a 90’s mountain bike?
No. Because a 90's mountain bike would have rim brakes.
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