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Anyone know what is up with them? After a weekend of spam messages (a few dozen from the same user) they seem to be off line now. I wonder if they are fixing security or what. Anyone have any info?
They have had a steady flow of new users showing up and posting similar type spam, but not the same level of volume.
They have had a steady flow of new users showing up and posting similar type spam, but not the same level of volume.
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Yeah. Probably security work. ACA ain’t as big as IB, Inc.
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They've glitzed up their website - as so many orgs now do.
Lot of people of all shapes, sizes, and colors cycling in lovely surroundings.
Meanwhile, they don't successfully migrate all content to tne new framework.
I must say, Neil Gunton always posts when the site will be down for maintenance.
I prefer an easy-to-use, informative site to all the glitz.
Lot of people of all shapes, sizes, and colors cycling in lovely surroundings.
Meanwhile, they don't successfully migrate all content to tne new framework.
I must say, Neil Gunton always posts when the site will be down for maintenance.
I prefer an easy-to-use, informative site to all the glitz.
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They've glitzed up their website - as so many orgs now do.
Lot of people of all shapes, sizes, and colors cycling in lovely surroundings.
Meanwhile, they don't successfully migrate all content to tne new framework.
I must say, Neil Gunton always posts when the site will be down for maintenance.
I prefer an easy-to-use, informative site to all the glitz.
Lot of people of all shapes, sizes, and colors cycling in lovely surroundings.
Meanwhile, they don't successfully migrate all content to tne new framework.
I must say, Neil Gunton always posts when the site will be down for maintenance.
I prefer an easy-to-use, informative site to all the glitz.
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I emailed them this morning and it is working now.
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I cut them some slack on the spam attacks. It's all too easy to sign up and post 30 spam messages overnight, when the small staff has gone home (or on a bike ride). They've been pretty good about cleaning up the crap when I've reported spam messages.
Looks like the site is back up now, FWIW.
Looks like the site is back up now, FWIW.
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I cut them some slack on the spam attacks. It's all too easy to sign up and post 30 spam messages overnight, when the small staff has gone home (or on a bike ride). They've been pretty good about cleaning up the crap when I've reported spam messages.
Looks like the site is back up now, FWIW.
Looks like the site is back up now, FWIW.
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Dunno. Gave up on the ACA forums as a useful place sometime back when a couple of posters began to openly ridicule others' tours and brag about their own.
BTW, a couple of ACA route maps have gone out of print. Natural evolution, or have we seen 'peak routes'?
BTW, a couple of ACA route maps have gone out of print. Natural evolution, or have we seen 'peak routes'?
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Maybe I expect too much. Still it doesn't seem reasonable for the same pattern not to be able to be prevented. Also it seems like having the same guy with essentially no posting history should be tripping some allarm when he posts dozens of identical posts with a bunch of the same spam links. Also it was reported early saturday morning and went for the whole weekend. I guess they don't have anyone working over the weekend, but a volunteer moderator would be a possibility. Barring that, some posting filters/rules might cut 99% of it.
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I'm afraid we're past the age of "peak paper." ACA is ginning up more routes, but apparently paper maps aren't sustainable (profitable) any more. Though I haven't bought any .gpx or their proprietary smart phone app, it seems like the effective price has gone up when you need to buy a .gpx to use with a standalone GPS unit, and then you'll presumably also want the smartphone app to get all the services that used to be included on the paper maps.
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While I wish ACA paid more attentions to their forums, I realize that forum use has gone down over the years and so it's probably not their priority. But I'm more frustrated by what Jama mentions. They've redone the website a few times in the last decade, and with every change they switch their blogging platform and/or where their content is located. But they did not migrate the old content to the new platform, nor did they keep access to the old content. So now all the links to older articles are dead.
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I'm afraid we're past the age of "peak paper." ACA is ginning up more routes, but apparently paper maps aren't sustainable (profitable) any more. Though I haven't bought any .gpx or their proprietary smart phone app, it seems like the effective price has gone up when you need to buy a .gpx to use with a standalone GPS unit, and then you'll presumably also want the smartphone app to get all the services that used to be included on the paper maps.
To be clear, I have not actually used the watch that way yet so I don't really know how it will work out for that. I have had it do some prompts when out on daily rides just as a proof of concept. I think it can do it with the phone off, again I'd need to do a bit more testing.
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I try to be as battery-free as possible. Last month I again used my PGS successfully. I did check my phone from time to time for confirmation when I simply should have trusted my cue sheet making skills. I learned to make cue sheets from a master ride leader in my local club before all this GPS nonsense.
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I think I would prefer to be battery free, if doable, for the most part.
Well, you take a left where the old north church used to be before it burned down a few years ago, then keep going a mile or so, and take a right where that grove of cedar trees used to be before they were cut down.....you can't miss it.
Well, you take a left where the old north church used to be before it burned down a few years ago, then keep going a mile or so, and take a right where that grove of cedar trees used to be before they were cut down.....you can't miss it.
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On the other hand I have run across a situation where all traces of an intersection were gone despite it still being on both the paper and electronic maps and in my route. I rode back and forth past it several times and ultimately got useful directions from a local family. Usually I am pretty skepitcal of directions from local folks other than truckers or farmers, but will take directions from others is really stuck (if with a grain of salt).
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I think I would prefer to be battery free, if doable, for the most part.
Well, you take a left where the old north church used to be before it burned down a few years ago, then keep going a mile or so, and take a right where that grove of cedar trees used to be before they were cut down.....you can't miss it.
Well, you take a left where the old north church used to be before it burned down a few years ago, then keep going a mile or so, and take a right where that grove of cedar trees used to be before they were cut down.....you can't miss it.
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The turn I missed on the TransAm was east of Berea. Didn't know where I was then, surely don't know now. It was a "turn right on unsigned (such and such) road." I'd probably have circled back after half a mile or so, but there was a family sitting out on their porch a couple hundred yards up the road. The man hollered, "Y'all looking for the bike route? It turned back yonder!" I thanked him, made a U-turn, and the rest is history.
That was back in the day when there was a (free) .gpx track developed by volunteers from the paper maps, lots of little tracks and a day and a half battery life in the GPS. It was much easier to find the right map on paper than to figure out the right file was named something like TAM08T0281. If I were to re-ride that route today, I'd probably still use paper maps, but I might turn on the GPS for the larger towns (Charlottesville!), the unsigned roads, and the numbered telephone poles. Using the paper maps back then, I rarely had a problem with "X miles, turn left onto Oak Rd." kinds of directions, so the anomalies stick out in my memory. And further west, where there aren't as many roads, you had the super-easy "0 mi. Continue on unsigned W. 95th St. 9 mi. Enter Stafford County. Route becomes NE 140th St. 23 mi. End of map." Hard to get lost there!
That was back in the day when there was a (free) .gpx track developed by volunteers from the paper maps, lots of little tracks and a day and a half battery life in the GPS. It was much easier to find the right map on paper than to figure out the right file was named something like TAM08T0281. If I were to re-ride that route today, I'd probably still use paper maps, but I might turn on the GPS for the larger towns (Charlottesville!), the unsigned roads, and the numbered telephone poles. Using the paper maps back then, I rarely had a problem with "X miles, turn left onto Oak Rd." kinds of directions, so the anomalies stick out in my memory. And further west, where there aren't as many roads, you had the super-easy "0 mi. Continue on unsigned W. 95th St. 9 mi. Enter Stafford County. Route becomes NE 140th St. 23 mi. End of map." Hard to get lost there!
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I cut them some slack on the spam attacks. It's all too easy to sign up and post 30 spam messages overnight, when the small staff has gone home (or on a bike ride). They've been pretty good about cleaning up the crap when I've reported spam messages.
Looks like the site is back up now, FWIW.
Looks like the site is back up now, FWIW.
I wouldn't find the spam so annoying except it seems that I was getting notified every time there was an update to any thread I had posted on previously. That was fine other than when there were a load of spam posts. The settings for notifications are not very clear on exactly how they actually work. I had to basically turn off all notifications before I think I got the annoying ones off. I think I had to kill the desirable ones in the process.
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I went through the settings again and it seems that I had it set to set the notify flag any time I posted to any topic. I had to go through and individually unflag hundreds of them as wel as changing that setting, but I think the annoying notifications should stop and I can more easily just ignore the spam.
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